Gringo Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 As a season ticket holder I am concerned that we holders could be classified as unsecured creditors, I have tried all day to see what our status is without success. Legally I believe we are unsecured creditors and as such our season tickets worthless, if anyone can clarify I would be grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said: As a season ticket holder I am concerned that we holders could be classified as unsecured creditors, I have tried all day to see what our status is without success. Legally I believe we are unsecured creditors and as such our season tickets worthless, if anyone can clarify I would be grateful. Its too early to worry about that CR. Lets concentrate on getting behind the team and see what happens. Kathcairns and r_wilcockson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: Its too early to worry about that CR. Lets concentrate on getting behind the team and see what happens. Hear hear mate But us the fans we got to think of ways we can help in anyway we can. At least until a take over happens Appently mel has one serious buyer I wish I knew who that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uttoxram75 Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 1 minute ago, B4ev6is said: Hear hear mate But us the fans we got to think of ways we can help in anyway we can. At least until a take over happens Appently mel has one serious buyer I wish I knew who that is. Don't worry about it B4. We can't influence whats going on. Support the Rams mate, thats all we can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Charlotte Ram said: As a season ticket holder I am concerned that we holders could be classified as unsecured creditors, I have tried all day to see what our status is without success. Legally I believe we are unsecured creditors and as such our season tickets worthless, if anyone can clarify I would be grateful. My accountant raised that point with me yesterday. It hadn't occurred to me, but apparently in the eyes of the law - it is very much the case. If the club go bust, you won't get money back (obviously). I'd imagine anyone coming in would stand by the fans who had already purchased tickets, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted September 21, 2021 Share Posted September 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, uttoxram75 said: Don't worry about it B4. We can't influence whats going on. Support the Rams mate, thats all we can do. Well we got try something right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CornwallRam Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 I think the point that this raises is that it gives the administrators the ability to cancel the season tickets we all hold and add us to the list of unsecured creditors. Slightly more concerning and realistic when you consider that by some amazing coincidence, the season tickets haven't been issued. Then everyone would have to buy match tickets. OK, the attendances would likely be reduced by a significant amount, but that would help with cash flow to limp on to January. It would also be easier to close a stand to help reduce costs. archram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 My most negative thought to date... and it was but a brief encounter... was that should the worst come to the worst, not one of our future generations will be able to go on Antiques Roadshow in 180 years time, showing off an actual genuine season ticket from the last ever season of the once great Derby County Football Club (Football being a once popular sport, participated and spectated by the masses, prior to the death of the game as a whole, over a century and a half ago!) strawhillram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 It’s a good question, are season tickets paid in full (20/21) still valid? As yet Reading tickets aren’t available for a game in a weeks time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 minute ago, TexasRam said: It’s a good question, are season tickets paid in full (20/21) still valid? As yet Reading tickets aren’t available for a game in a weeks time! Reading & Swansea tickets ARE available to season ticket holders. I ordered, received and printed mine yesterday with £0.00 charge as expected. Nothing has changed from the previous games. Kathcairns and Rev 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Charlotte Ram said: As a season ticket holder I am concerned that we holders could be classified as unsecured creditors, I have tried all day to see what our status is without success. Legally I believe we are unsecured creditors and as such our season tickets worthless, if anyone can clarify I would be grateful. It’s a very good question. I had this discussion with some friends pre-Stoke and the conclusion was that season tickets will indeed expire once we go into Administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 7 hours ago, B4ev6is said: Hear hear mate But us the fans we got to think of ways we can help in anyway we can. At least until a take over happens Appently mel has one serious buyer I wish I knew who that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Nah wee billy doesn’t have the cash hintonsboots and i-Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 25 minutes ago, i-Ram said: What’s Sturgeon got to do with this ? Inviting us into the Scottish Championship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 (edited) I have paid mine in full 21/22, i posted about this in another thread, got a reply (might have been to say we were ok and nothing changes. We wont get the cards, most likely, but Can we not just print the tickets? They are paid to the end of the season, should we make it? Edited September 22, 2021 by EtoileSportiveDeDerby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, Carnero said: Reading & Swansea tickets ARE available to season ticket holders. I ordered, received and printed mine yesterday with £0.00 charge as expected. Nothing has changed from the previous games. Ah nice one thank you ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 Technically, we're unsecured creditors, liable to receive nothing if the club is liquidated. The Administrator can't cancel existing tickets because we still have an unfulfilled service contract with the club - Administration hasn't changed that. If the club is bought via a CVA, a new owner is unlikely to pee off 18,000 of the club's most committed supporters by expecting them to pay again for something they've already bought. I know nuffin, QuitYourJibbaJivin and Carnero 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 48 minutes ago, Ellafella said: It’s a very good question. I had this discussion with some friends pre-Stoke and the conclusion was that season tickets will indeed expire once we go into Administration. If the worst happens and either a) the club goes completely bust before the end of the season or b) the administrator/new owner refuses to honour existing season tickets (I don’t think either will happen by the way) then I’d go down the Section 75 route as I purchased my ticket using my credit card. I wasn’t sure about time limits for making a claim but, out of interest, I answered some basic questions on the “Which” website and it indicated that I would probably be able to claim. I used Section 75 successfully last year for Virgin Atlantic flight tickets. Having said all of this, I shan’t give it another thought unless that very dark day arrives which, I don’t think it will. I’ll cross that bridge if and when I come to it. Mick Brolly, Crewton and Ellafella 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, Tamworthram said: If the worst happens and either a) the club goes completely bust before the end of the season or b) the administrator/new owner refuses to honour existing season tickets (I don’t think either will happen by the way) then I’d go down the Section 75 route as I purchased my ticket using my credit card. I wasn’t sure about time limits for making a claim but, out of interest, I answered some basic questions on the “Which” website and it indicated that I would probably be able to claim. I used Section 75 successfully last year for Virgin Atlantic flight tickets. Having said all of this, I shan’t give it another thought unless that very dark day arrives which, I don’t think it will. I’ll cross that bridge if and when I come to it. That's a very good point and reminder. I too bought mine on my credit card. Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted September 22, 2021 Share Posted September 22, 2021 1 hour ago, i-Ram said: Half fan dabby dozy RIMBAUD, i-Ram and Mucker1884 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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