Leeds Ram Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, Curtains said: I understand that but it’s a totally negative scenario and I don’t want to entertain that . Why do you ! I don't want to entertain lots of things but uncomfortable things often do need to be entertained. Last season we saw our worst performances and points total at this level for over 20 years and for many of us we can't just ignore that when making predictions about next season. If we'd had a big clear out and started over then that would make me think again but we've not done that because we can't. I hope I'm wrong and we end up having a fantastic season that is exciting but if I'm being honest I've got little faith in the squad and even less in the management. No-one is moaning to you for the the fact you're such an unabashed optimist for seemingly no apparent reason, so maybe don't have a go at those who are simply being realistic from their perspective. Edited July 16, 2021 by Leeds Ram Jimbo Ram, ziggyram59 and kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 5 hours ago, Jourdan said: Baldock in attack? Jagielka at the back? Lawrence as captain? Rooney, Rosenior, and the magic clipboard? A kit that says Bolton Wanderers tribute act? I can only see promotion and anything less would be a disappointment of immeasurable proportions. Carnero, ramit, Jourdan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 2 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: What would be wrong with: Marshall Byrne Jags/Mengi Davies/Stearman Buchanan Shinnie Bird/Bielik Joz Sibley Lawrence CKR Strength in depth? Nowhere near enough goals in that side for me. Rammy03 and NottsRam77 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 We cannot go on as we have been. It's a good question but I didn't vote in the poll as the only things that will satisfy me are a transition to acceptable new owners, the club on a decent financial footing and an end to the EFL pursuit of us. Football is so much about confidence and momentum. On the field it is possible for us to be fine because we do have some talented players if they step up, but we need for once to get off to a good start. The situation the club finds itself in is so dark, if we don't begin well I don't see us getting out of it. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong, NottsRam77 and Rammy03 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucktwo Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 There is a strong possibility that we will do much better than last season .. top 10 finish. Keep the faith . RoyMac5, Rammy03, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong and 1 other 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 I'll have a sensible go..... ? I'll be happy to see - an identifiable style, or at least a solid attempt to implement one - our young academy players improving from last season - improved fitness levels so we don't look like 11 sets of 50 year old bagpipes after an hour. The actual position is secondary, but if we did those 3 things I think we would be at least lower mid table. Jourdan, Miggins and angieram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 16, 2021 Share Posted July 16, 2021 Not be relegated and I'll be happy. Nice to haves: Rooney either turns good or leaves. Takeover happens. EFV are satisfied and find a new enemy number one. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimbeard Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) As things stand, still having a viable, fuctioning club would be worthy of a street party, complete with flanges, scraves, and balions. Edited July 17, 2021 by Grimbeard RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 8 hours ago, maxjam said: Strength in depth? Nowhere near enough goals in that side for me. Its a start, unlike the season which hasn't yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Its a start, unlike the season which hasn't yet. I did say 'with the squad we've got currently'. However, I must admit that my hopes of adding to it sufficiently to finish any higher than midtable are slim at best. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Curtains said: It’s not a valid point as you have no idea how our form will go. . This is a new season. Yes it is new season, but with the same manager/coaching staff that led us to within 2 minutes of relegation to League One and now with an even smaller squad lacking any genuine quality up front. I think I’ve got fair idea of where we are heading as things stand.. Edited July 17, 2021 by Jayram Jimbo Ram and Jourdan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 10 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: What would be wrong with: Marshall Byrne Jags/Mengi Davies/Stearman Buchanan Shinnie Bird/Bielik Joz Sibley Lawrence CKR The sight of yourself and @Curtainsposting together in nit-picking, contrary tandem scared me more than this team...but only just!! ?? Is this a serious question? Marshall had a poor finish to the season, Mengi is a huge risk as a regular, Stearman...please no, Bird would have to improve massively on last season, Bielik is not going to be match fit at best before Christmas, Sibley has really struggled for a while now, Joz flatters to deceive and doesn't score, Lawrence is captain when he has never shown anything that would suggest he has the personality for the role and CKR tried his best but wasn't good enough a season ago. Other than that.... That team missed relegation only due to points deducted elsewhere and someone else scoring in the last few minutes on our behalf. Its also a really depressingly uninspiring team, I don't want to part good money to watch them perform limply and never look like scoring. Serious question, where would you see that team finishing and who is going to score more than 4 or 5 goals? Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Its a start, unlike the season which hasn't yet. As it stands Macca, would you agree currently the squad is weaker than that which finished last season? If you recall we stayed up in the final 10 minutes of the final game of last season through Cardiff helping us out. What do you think needs to change to ensure we don’t have a repeat of last seasons disaster and another relegation battle? Simple enough question ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jayram said: Yes it is new season, but with the same manager/coaching staff that led us to within 2 minutes of relegation to League One and now with an even smaller squad? I think I’ve got fair idea of where we are heading as things stand.. There were enough games where things might have had a different result in our favour. So even with 'the same squad' - which we haven't got - there is plenty of opportunity for different results. The crowds will be back and that will help too. The young players are older (as are the older ones! :D) and there looks to be some additions. It's a new season starting all things are possible. #COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Its also a really depressingly uninspiring team, I don't want to part good money to watch them perform limply and never look like scoring. Serious question, where would you see that team finishing and who is going to score more than 4 or 5 goals? I think that team is capable of mid-table. And how many times are you expecting any team to score 4 or 5 goals? Pointless getting yourself all miserable before a ball has even been kicked, so scoff all you like but me and @Curtains are at least able to enjoy being Rams fans!!! Edited July 17, 2021 by RoyMac5 Carnero, Chester40, angieram and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: I think that team is capable of mid-table. And how many times are you expecting any team to score 4 or 5 goals? Pointless getting yourself all miserable before a ball has even been kicked, so scoff all you like but me and Curtains are at least able to enjoy being Rams fans!!! Ha sorry mate, I meant players scoring that in a season! Midtable? I know it's the weekend but isn't it a bit early for the strong stuff? Jimbo Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: There were enough games where things might have had a different result in our favour. So even with 'the same squad' - which we haven't got - there is plenty of opportunity for different results. The crowds will be back and that will help too. The young players are older (as are the older ones! :D) and there looks to be some additions. It's a new season starting all things are possible. #COYR Agree we haven’t got the same squad, it is weaker, don’t you agree? No Clarke, Roberts, Waghorn, Gregory or Edmundson. Talk to me Macca, talk to me ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chester40 said: Ha sorry mate, I meant players scoring that in a season! Midtable? I know it's the weekend but isn't it a bit early for the strong stuff? Better to hope for the best than constantly imagining the worst. #COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayram Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: I think that team is capable of mid-table. And how many times are you expecting any team to score 4 or 5 goals? Pointless getting yourself all miserable before a ball has even been kicked, so scoff all you like but me and Curtains are at least able to enjoy being Rams fans!!! Roy, we are all Rams fans and want the team to do well but realistically for me the current squad isn’t good enough for anything other than a relegation scrap. If they prove me wrong I’ll genuinely be ecstatic - I’ve got no interest in being one of those ‘I told you so’ supporters. And I’m not feeling miserable - my Rams TV subscription has been renewed, I’ve just bought a new DCFC mug and I’m at the seaside on the hottest weekend of the year - bring it on! Jimbo Ram and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 Satisfaction and relief are different things. Relieved if we survive Satisfied if we make mid table Desire, from a selfish POV …. . home wins with goals going in, at the right end, on a regular basis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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