BBG83 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 No need for a new manager. Let Cocu manage and McClaren coach. Best of both men. Lets face it McClaren is a coach and not a manager. He's proved that. Cocu has been a leader all through his football days. McClaren would embrace Cocu's philosophy too. Would be much cheaper than getting rid of Cocu. And if it still doesn't work then McClaren is a better plan B than Rooney or Rosenior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 13 hours ago, MikeS said: It was bizarre and a completely banal decision, especially after the Leeds performance. I still can't forgive him for throwing the game away, as well as waiting too long to make a change. A case of overthinking the tactics? Lampard knew Lawrence, Bennett, Waghorn and Marriott were only fit enough for a maximum of 60 minutes. I'm certain he saw it as a 120 minutes game and wanted to finish the game stronger. Let Bennett tire their defense out for an hour only to be replaced by our best two forwards. He wasn't far off being proven right - with only a defensive blunder proving otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 At least if it's Rooney he might spend less time on the pitch. We looked better when he was self isolating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 44 minutes ago, CocuCrazyCocuMad said: McClaren would embrace Cocu's philosophy too. Would he though? Mcclaren wanted to score endless amounts of goals, Cocu goes 1 up and puts 11 men behind the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBG83 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Rammy03 said: Would he though? Mcclaren wanted to score endless amounts of goals, Cocu goes 1 up and puts 11 men behind the ball Ok. I don't think that's Cocu's philosophy. I think its a reflection of where we are in terms of personnel. For whatever reason, if you don't trust players you're more cautious with your approach - and he's overly cautious at the min. And I appreciate that he needs to motivate the players better. That's where I think McClaren would work well alongside him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 This may be totally irrelevant but just watched the "Combined training" video and there are no members of the first team coaching staff present except Liam Rosenior. Just an observation!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Kicks Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 11 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: This may be totally irrelevant but just watched the "Combined training" video and there are no members of the first team coaching staff present except Liam Rosenior. Just an observation!!! Could be Twan in the background at 0:55, not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: This may be totally irrelevant but just watched the "Combined training" video and there are no members of the first team coaching staff present except Liam Rosenior. Just an observation!!! Just watched it and you are right, not 1 single shot of any of them, yet 3 of Liam Rosenior first pumping players. If Cocu really is self isolating then his assistants would clearly be there, but nope, not there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, DCFClks said: Could be Twan in the background at 0:55, not sure. It is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_Martin Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 23 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Just watched it and you are right, not 1 single shot of any of them, yet 3 of Liam Rosenior first pumping players. If Cocu really is self isolating then his assistants would clearly be there, but nope, not there. Twan is there at 0.54 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Just now, Chris_Martin said: Twan is there at 0.54 Thanks, I'll check again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleEatonRam Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Just watched it and you are right, not 1 single shot of any of them, yet 3 of Liam Rosenior first pumping players. If Cocu really is self isolating then his assistants would clearly be there, but nope, not there. Ooh, I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chris_Martin said: Twan is there at 0.54 I've just watched it again and there he is, blatant as anything, although is his hair shorter?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I've just watched it again and there he is, blatant as anything, although is his hair shorter?? My mistake then............As you were! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, CocuCrazyCocuMad said: No need for a new manager. Let Cocu manage and McClaren coach. Best of both men. Lets face it McClaren is a coach and not a manager. He's proved that. Cocu has been a leader all through his football days. McClaren would embrace Cocu's philosophy too. Would be much cheaper than getting rid of Cocu. And if it still doesn't work then McClaren is a better plan B than Rooney or Rosenior. Perfect, they speak the same language too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, The Scarlet Pimpernel said: This may be totally irrelevant but just watched the "Combined training" video and there are no members of the first team coaching staff present except Liam Rosenior. Just an observation!!! From when? In the 2 minute silence video yesterday, Twan and Chris VdW were there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Lampard knew Lawrence, Bennett, Waghorn and Marriott were only fit enough for a maximum of 60 minutes. I'm certain he saw it as a 120 minutes game and wanted to finish the game stronger. Let Bennett tire their defense out for an hour only to be replaced by our best two forwards. He wasn't far off being proven right - with only a defensive blunder proving otherwise. I was surprised that he didn't make the change at half time though given we were a goal down. Did anybody else get an initial line up on their phone with Marriott playing only for the stadium screen to show the real line up? Poo day, out played and out sung awful really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Don't get your hopes for a new manager because I don't it's going to happen. Were shafted and are stuck with COCU. God help us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Spanish said: I was surprised that he didn't make the change at half time though given we were a goal down. Did anybody else get an initial line up on their phone with Marriott playing only for the stadium screen to show the real line up? Poo day, out played and out sung awful really I don't remember that. I do remember the feeling at 14.02 that day of just "knowing" we weren't going to win and I don't think i was the only one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramboy63 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Lampard knew Lawrence, Bennett, Waghorn and Marriott were only fit enough for a maximum of 60 minutes. I'm certain he saw it as a 120 minutes game and wanted to finish the game stronger. Let Bennett tire their defense out for an hour only to be replaced by our best two forwards. He wasn't far off being proven right - with only a defensive blunder proving otherwise. He got it completely wrong for me,if he was concerned they could only last 60 minutes start them and let us lead 2-0 not the other way round Look at past finals you can see the team that scores first wins the game,you can count on one hand the other way round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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