MackworthRamIsGod Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 For anyone unsure on big Sam, or concerned by his football, just have a look at his past signings. The bloke signs some cracking players and seems to be aware of other countries other than Scotland. He either does a lot of homework or has someone who goes out and does some top donkey work on his behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I could stomach Big Sam as a bit of a ‘deal with the devil’ until the end of the season. Do what needs to be done and clear off with a nice brown envelope full of cash and a promise to never come back again. I don’t really think we will go down anyway but if the powers that be feel needs must then so be it. Then Ryan Lowe in for next season with a fresh start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archied Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 hours ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: I'd take him over John Gregory. In fact I'd take my nan as manager over John Gregory. Rooney would like to take your nan over John Gregory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 minute ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: For anyone unsure on big Sam, or concerned by his football, just have a look at his past signings. The bloke signs some cracking players and seems s to be aware of other countries other than Scotland. He either does a lot of homework or has someone who goes out and does some top donkey work on his behalf. Just to be clear, you know he hasn't worked for 2 and a half years, don't you? He doesn't do any of the things you say he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orphanram Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: For anyone unsure on big Sam, or concerned by his football, just have a look at his past signings. The bloke signs some cracking players and seems to be aware of other countries other than Scotland. He either does a lot of homework or has someone who goes out and does some top donkey work on his behalf. These were the signings he made at West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, deanoakaram4life said: He won’t command that much of a wage. His stock isn’t as high as when he left for England. He would want a huge promotion bonus though! He agreed £9m over 18 months for Everton. If he's coming, it's on a big contract. Whether that is 18 months/2 years or 4/5 years. He's going to command a large contractual obligation. He turned down the Newcastle job after Rafa because of the money. It's a complete non starter for me. He's a mercenary. Since his England stint and the controversy about third party owned players, he's only been interested in the money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Now 8/11 (I’m not a bookies runner honest) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcreece1601 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: For anyone unsure on big Sam, or concerned by his football, just have a look at his past signings. The bloke signs some cracking players and seems to be aware of other countries other than Scotland. He either does a lot of homework or has someone who goes out and does some top donkey work on his behalf. Who did he sign? Not familiar with his last few positions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Have we somehow moved from England to Cloud Cuckoo land? One must dream. However do you think we'll go down with big Sam at the helm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, DCFC1388 said: Exactly, if his stock was that high he wouldnt be going to the bottom of the Champ instead of the bottom of the Prem. He will have a huge promotion bonus and if he gets us up he will fully deserve it. Cough cough Rafa Benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Andicis said: Because people said the exact things they're saying then, now. ''They know what they're doing'' ''they'll sort it out and make us tough to beat'' ''put a bit of passion in the team'' all that same kind of baalocks. The idea behind big Sam is entirely wrong in my view, exactly the same as it was with Nigel Pearson. We didn't have the personnel for Pearson, and we don't have the personnel for Big Sam. It'll have the same outcome. As someone who would prefer we look elsewhere other than Allardyce even I'll say he's a very different kettle of fish than Pearson. I completely agree that Pearson was the wrong appointment for the wrong squad and I genuinely think that was visible at the time. I also think Pearson is a rigid inflexible manager who needs everything completely lined up before succeeding. I also I'm far from convinced about him as a manager on the whole. Allardyce though...... has pretty consistently got results regardless of squad and situation. It might not be pretty, it might come at a cost but he is very good at getting results out of out of luck teams and he's often done it with more stacked odds (think about some of the prem squads he's taken over compared to the rest of the prem at that time). Personally I think we should look at a more progressive manager because I still think that it doesn't need too much to turn this around and would rather we go with someone more likely to work with the academy. With all that said I completely get why people would want Allardyce in our current situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
66DegreesNorth Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Monty said: Now 8/11 (I’m not a bookies runner honest) ....on the drift, nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Just now, TomTom92 said: One must dream. However do you think we'll go down with big Sam at the helm? Not sure we would go down anyway. Long way to go. Will also depend on what budget is available in January ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Orphanram said: I’m not knocking anybody for plumping for Big Sam and I would get behind him (as I would any manager) but personally doesn’t feel the right fit from my own preferences. I will gladly acknowledge I haven’t got a FIFA armchair manager A licence and don’t think my insight is probably that insightful! Just doesn’t feel great to me. Who knows if we get him he might be the 2nd coming of Billy Davies. Don’t get me wrong he wouldn’t be my first choice, I’d go for someone like Eddie Howe, or even Mac 3 to get us out of this but just don’t know if he’d take us to the next step. From what people have posted about Ryan Lowe he seems another exciting shout. But Big Sam would do a good job I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC1388 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 For what its worth Allardyce has the best points per game at this level for any manager who has managed 50+ games. 2 points per game from 59 games. Also, his favoured formation at West Ham in the Champ was 4231 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 He is a bigger, younger version of Colin. That’ll do for me in these desperate times. It’ll be: wham, bam, thank you Sam until the end of the season then it’ll be over to Rafa if we’re still in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: One must dream. However do you think we'll go down with big Sam at the helm? I have no idea. I certainly don't think survival would be 'guaranteed' with him at the helm. Nor that we'd be doomed without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: For anyone unsure on big Sam, or concerned by his football, just have a look at his past signings. The bloke signs some cracking players and seems to be aware of other countries other than Scotland. He either does a lot of homework or has someone who goes out and does some top donkey work on his behalf. Are we seriously contemplating someone who was consulting how to circumnavigate third party ownership rules? I Don't trust the guy. Why don't we get Sam Rush in too, again. Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StaffsRam Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Rooney now longer odds than Rosenior, and the same as Gregory.. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoenix Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Notts County: "The following season (1997-8)ranks among the club's worst, as they managed just seven victories all season and finished in the bottom position of the league table. Relegation to the league's basement division happened just six years after promotion to the top flight.However, success followed relegation under Sam Allardyce.The Magpies secured the Division Three title in March 1999 by a record margin of seventeen points. They became the first side since World War II to win promotion in mid-March, with six games still remaining". Scored 84, conceded 45, points 99. I'd take that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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