Van der MoodHoover Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 12 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: Your Aldi Ginger biscuits are made 20 miles down the road in Utch. ? They're good. Belmont I think is the name they're branded with in our local aldi. Certainly took trade away from the waitrose in romsey which practically had a monopoly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 19 minutes ago, Chester40 said: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think As an example, I am not a medical expert but there are interesting points made here (if I have the link correct) that just seem to not be open for debate. I haven't got the time, inclination or ability to really defend or focus on its ultimate validity...but it feels like any voices of restraint or opposition are just being swept away nationally by a tide of apocalyptic rhetoric with no giving of the opposing view. It certainly makes interesting reading. Personally I think the governments of the world are really in that damned if you do damned if you dont scenario right now. I have not doubt if infections drop significantly in the coming weeks and in a few months it seems like a distant memory there will be a voice complaining that the governments too too drastic action, yet if little action had been taken and it killed millions those same voices would complain about taking no action. I am glad the only decisions i have to make tomorrow are related to my work, what i will eat for lunch and dinner, if to have that extra coffee or not, is it warm enough for shorts, or do i go to my dining table work place in tracksuit bottoms? Who would be someone in a position of authority right now...glad its not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 The stats on confirmed cases are not a lot of use, more testing is being done, and of a presumably high probability set of people. Would like to see the percentages confirmed against total tested. But as they may be low and lead to complacency they won't publish those I suspect.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Just starting week 3 of as much isolation as possible.. Just ordered a jigsaw, not done one of those for 40 years. Should kill some time between jobs.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 The sister in law has had it. Knocked her out for 10 days and she is a tough as they come. Didn’t need hospital but was pretty bad by all accounts.. She said the weirdest thing was having no small or taste.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 13 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Just starting week 3 of as much isolation as possible.. Just ordered a jigsaw, not done one of those for 40 years. Should kill some time between jobs.. Order one of those wasgij ones ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 18 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Just starting week 3 of as much isolation as possible.. Just ordered a jigsaw, not done one of those for 40 years. Should kill some time between jobs.. I'd say we're as opposite as they come on here, yet my 1500 piece jigsaw arrived yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 16 hours ago, cstand said: Nottingham you mean the ten bob millionaire city? Call it what you like , but in them day's there was very few places better for a night out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 21 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I'd say we're as opposite as they come on here, yet my 1500 piece jigsaw arrived yesterday. Typical I only ordered 1000 pces. Gonna have to order a 2000 pces now. Oh the pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 hour ago, Chester40 said: I think people are being remarkably compliant. We knew exactly what was coming. We didn't. That's the point. 1 hour ago, Chester40 said: The hypocrisy and rule changing is mind-boggling to me. Things have changed as the data/evidence appears to change. Because we didn't 'know exactly what was coming'. Nor do we still. What is so difficult to understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StockholmRam Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 19 hours ago, uttoxram75 said: Still working Mucker, food production key worker status believe it or not. Did you work there Utch when Elks family owned it? I went to school with the Elks lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Typical I only ordered 1000 pces. Gonna have to order a 2000 pces now. Oh the pressure. To be fair the plan is to try to occupy the kids with it mostly. Who am I kidding, it's a plan destined to fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 Never had patience for a jigsaw..could perhaps manage this one at a push. https://www.happypuzzle.co.uk/products/Derby-county-400-piece.aspx This one a bit better: https://www.ebay.co.uk/c/20011627324 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boycie Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, GboroRam said: To be fair the plan is to try to occupy the kids with it mostly. Who am I kidding, it's a plan destined to fail. Arh @Angry Ram and @GboroRam friendship is coming together piece by piece. lovely to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevin Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 I think my 1/24th scale Spitfire might finally be completed in the next few weeks .Problem is I like them to be just so and eldest grand son is less fussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52079922 In the letter being sent to 30 million households at an anticipated cost of £5.8m, Mr Johnson writes: "From the start, we have sought to put in the right measures at the right time. "We will not hesitate to go further if that is what the scientific and medical advice tells us we must do." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52079922 In the letter being sent to 30 million households at an anticipated cost of £5.8m, Mr Johnson writes: "From the start, we have sought to put in the right measures at the right time. "We will not hesitate to go further if that is what the scientific and medical advice tells us we must do." What a waste of money. Surprises me Roy that whilst you are normally so unbelievably keen to play devil's advocate, you seem to take everything pronounced to you by Boris (often in complete contrast to what other world figures were saying) completely at face value. You asked me 'what is so hard to understand', well nothing is, if you have morphed into a nodding dog over night. Crack on just repeating every pronouncement the government jumps to tomorrow and hammer anyone who questions it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52079922 In the letter being sent to 30 million households at an anticipated cost of £5.8m, Mr Johnson writes: "From the start, we have sought to put in the right measures at the right time. "We will not hesitate to go further if that is what the scientific and medical advice tells us we must do." Sensible approach imo. If we are hoping to keep CV deaths to 20k and we're only at 1k currently things are going to get significantly worse before they get better. The letter is just preparing people to expect increased lockdown measures in the coming weeks. If you can stock up (sensibly) on what you need now to be able to hide yourself away for a month, do so - the fewer people outside in the coming month the better. Maybe if things go well we'll be let out for the summer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Chester40 said: I think people are being remarkably compliant. We knew exactly what was coming. We were told to carry on pretty much as normal. Until Friday teatime my kids were in school with literally hundreds of other kids, I was in work and so was their Mum...all very close to dozens of other people. But that evening I wasn't seemingly allowed to go out for a drink lest I catch this deadly disease (I didn't). By Monday - even though I had to be in work and my kids were in school as they had nowhere else to go - we aren't allowed to meet friends, go in the car anywhere, go out more than once a day etc. The hypocrisy and rule changing is mind-boggling to me. I will be in work again tomorrow and mixing with a variety of different people, but if I want to go for a walk with my best mate, I could be fined. Everyone all seems to have happily swallowed the logic of this and anyone questioning it gets shot down. I have read quite a few articles that question the tactics and logic but generally people seem remarkably happy to just do as they are told. Myself included...but I feel some of the outrage when someone like @Needlesh questions anything, borders on the hysterical. This is only my theory but if everyone follows the self isolation rules at home it should give more protection to people at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted March 29, 2020 Share Posted March 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Chester40 said: https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/The-evidence-on-Covid-19-is-not-as-clear-as-we-think As an example, I am not a medical expert but there are interesting points made here (if I have the link correct) that just seem to not be open for debate. I haven't got the time, inclination or ability to really defend or focus on its ultimate validity...but it feels like any voices of restraint or opposition are just being swept away nationally by a tide of apocalyptic rhetoric with no giving of the opposing view. This is the @G STAR RAM view. Sceptical about the potential of the virus to kill people who wouldn’t have died anyway, for the very same reasons given. But there is no mystery. The stats on death rates are available. However, because it hasn’t really hit us yet, it’s too early for covid19 to be significantly effecting the numbers. But they will. And to suggest that’s it’s all been exaggerated and an over reaction is an irresponsible argument to peddle at this time. In 2019 from the beginning of March, the weekly recorded deaths in the uk were: 11,044 10,898 10,567 10,402 9,867 the rate declines as we head into spring. This year, we only have the stats for the first two weeks of March, when the numbers dying of Coronavirus were in the hundreds. 10,895. 11,019 the rate has increased when we start to get over 1000 or 2000 deaths a week, then the numbers will be clear for everyone to see. It is true to say that the estimated mortality rate of the disease will vary dependent upon the numbers tested, and the numbers testing positive, but in Wuhan they tested extensively and revisited their calcs, they still concluded that this virus was 14x as deadly as flu. Previously healthy people will be killed by this disease. Please do not be tempted to fall into the trap of thinking it’s just a big over reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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