Ibby Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Awful result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 50 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: He seems too defensive for me, and everything from PSV fans suggests so as well. Did they happen to mention the back to back league titles he won for them in years 2 and 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Carnero said: Did they happen to mention the back to back league titles he won for them in years 2 and 3? That’s not the point though, is it? The point is, we wanted continuity from Lampard. Cocu isn’t that at all. It’s gonna be harder work to build a squad capable of playing Cocus defensive style than it is someone who plays an attacking style imo. Cocu isn’t the right man for the job at hand, regardless of any past success imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, S8TY said: Notts I'm not a massive fan of Malone don't get me wrong but lets go back a couple of games at PP he saved us a few times with last ditch defending and perhaps Cocu thought he might be better than Lowe today defensively as Lowe is not great either, i actually missed the game today for once (which was no fault of my own ...and its difficult not actually being at the game ) but skysports reporter said we played very well ?? The incident in the first few mins has ultimately changed the game and Malone does look like hes been caught out but it happens....I'm just saying starting Lowe instead doesn't necessarily give us a less prone to error better defensive unit Oh I know mate, It’s literally horse for courses isn’t it it’s all just frustrating as hell for us all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, Carnero said: Did they happen to mention the back to back league titles he won for them in years 2 and 3? In a league of two the eredevise is a slightly more glam Scotland with schexier accents and nicer weather Ajax and psv are infinitely bigger clubs than their counterparts over there, there’s the occasional twente or feyanoord Landing a hand on a bit of silverware but it’s those two that dominate with infinitely bigger resources than the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 minutes ago, Carnero said: Did they happen to mention the back to back league titles he won for them in years 2 and 3? Pretty much guarantee I could get PSV a top 3 finish giving no team talk and sitting on the side line with a fag and paper . Probably get in a half hour nap as well. I reckon winning the title with FC Twente or a similar team who haven't won a title in 80 years might be a bigger accomplishment. Now why can't we find a bloke like that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 4 hours ago, lukedcfc said: No it wasn't. The aim of the game is to score goals right? We conceded three against an absolute dire Reading team. We are that crap this season we accept mediocre baalocks like that, wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: That’s not the point though, is it? The point is, we wanted continuity from Lampard. Cocu isn’t that at all. It’s gonna be harder work to build a squad capable of playing Cocus defensive style than it is someone who plays an attacking style imo. Cocu isn’t the right man for the job at hand, regardless of any past success imo. When Lampard left so did our 3 best players and a few others that looking back were better than were given credit. Then we had Percy Pisshead getting sacked and a number of injuries. The man is a football manager not a magician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irobinson Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 It is wearing a bit thin now. I want to believe it’s going to change, but I’m waiting for that Stimac moment post Tranmere 5-1. Is it going to happen, and can we afford to wait much more there is also the Rooney dilemma - as he was promised a coaching role under the experienced Cocu - what is he learning? if we wait we need seismic transfer window to inject some passion, knowhow and skill in I didn’t go today - but experience CR all the three nils in London of late - and hey presto another 3 nil deficit. my radio got turned off at 89 mins..... the sound of Reading fans Olays too much!!! im going to Palace in the cup....be nice if the turnaround happens sooner...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Not sure if debated already, but both peno’s are sending off’s or neither are. Discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfb Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 hour ago, Turnstile said: I don’t get this “we were not as bad as the score suggests “we must be we gave them all 3 goals. If u only judge by what we concede in a game , it no wonder u dont get it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, Millenniumram said: That’s not the point though, is it? The point is, we wanted continuity from Lampard. Cocu isn’t that at all. It’s gonna be harder work to build a squad capable of playing Cocus defensive style than it is someone who plays an attacking style imo. Cocu isn’t the right man for the job at hand, regardless of any past success imo. So from your statement then you are blaming Mel Morris for this. Because I was lead to believe he put in an awful lot of his time and energy watching Cocu's games at PSV and he believed he was the continuity. After all it was MM who hired him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, Van Gritters said: When Lampard left so did our 3 best players and a few others that looking back were better than were given credit. Then we had Percy Pisshead getting sacked and a number of injuries. The man is a football manager not a magician. That doesn’t have any bearing on his mentality and approach to games though. I’m not Cocu out because we’re not challenging for promotion, I understand that isn’t possible with the squad this season (could’ve been more likely with remotely competent recruitment, mind). I’m Cocu out because he’s got a negative mindset. That’s been the case everywhere he’s been by all accounts, and it’s certainly be evident here. He lost me when he played Bogle on the right wing and Wisdom at right back. Don’t care about the quality of his squad, that’s the move of a negative manager, and that’s not what I want at Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millenniumram Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 1 minute ago, BathRam72 said: So from your statement then you are blaming Mel Morris for this. Because I was lead to believe he put in an awful lot of his time and energy watching Cocu's games at PSV and he believed he was the continuity. After all it was MM who hired him. To an extent, yes I am. Or at least, whoever made the decision to employ Cocu. I doubt it was one man alone. Whoever thought he was continuity from Lampard was wrong imo. And it’s not the first time we’ve employed an unsuitable manager. Pearson, Rowett, Clement etc etc. We’ve not sacked too many managers, we’ve appointed too many of the wrong ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 5 minutes ago, irobinson said: It is wearing a bit thin now. I want to believe it’s going to change, but I’m waiting for that Stimac moment post Tranmere 5-1. Is it going to happen, and can we afford to wait much more there is also the Rooney dilemma - as he was promised a coaching role under the experienced Cocu - what is he learning? if we wait we need seismic window to inject some passion, knowhow and skill in I didn’t go today - but experience CR all the three nils in London of late - and hey presto another 3 nil deficit. my radio got turned off at 89 mins..... the sound of Reading fans Olays too much!!! im going to Palace in the cup....be nice if the turnaround happens sooner...? May be start with players that pass the ball to our players then ones that pass forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JfR Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 43 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: Not sure if debated already, but both peno’s are sending off’s or neither are. Discuss. Malone's was a sending off because he did not attempt to play the ball when making the foul, he just pushed the lad over Forsyth's wasn't because there was a genuine attempt to play the ball, albeit a very poor one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCFC Ram Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Bear in mind that Cooky's Wigan were unlucky to lose a few weeks ago at PP. They were better organised and worked a lot harder. Even though player for player they aren't anything like as good as us. and that's the problem right now - and is likely to be at theirs, I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamNut Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 hours ago, Turnstile said: I don’t get this “we were not as bad as the score suggests “we must be we gave them all 3 goals. Wait until you’ve seen it. jason knight deserved a goal if only for the 28 yarder that smacked the woodwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 A red card and a goal down from the ensuing penalty, all in the opening minutes, and away from home. Why are we not winning this type of game anymore! #tenmen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topram Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Praised us a lot today without mentioning probably our best player Knight thought he was excellent stood up was so unlucky not to score and unlucky not to get a penalty, he will grow into a great player Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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