The Politics Thread 2019

[EtoileSportiveDeDerby]

34 minutes ago, Spanish said:

Mary Poppins, everybody likes her.  Nobody else I can think of

She's good I'll give you that but even she might struggle

[FindernRam]

3 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said:

The political system needs a complete overhaul. The more people who lose faith in it, the better

So you want riots like in Spain, France, HongKong? The people rejected proportional representation so what do you propose, a dictatorship? Military takeover?

[AndyinLiverpool]

1 minute ago, FindernRam said:

So you want riots like in Spain, France, HongKong? The people rejected proportional representation so what do you propose, a dictatorship? Military takeover?

People didn't reject proportional representation. They rejected a particular version of it. 

Nothing wrong with protest in the streets. In Hong Kong, for example, the problems are being caused by the authorities response to it. A government that shoots its own people with impunity has no legitimacy.

[Sith Happens]

3 hours ago, G STAR RAM said:

Which politician is going to bring the people back together and heal the divisions, and how?

Has there ever been one?

[Sith Happens]

3 hours ago, SchtivePesley said:

so you're agreeing that it's also right for half the population to feel cheated by/angry about the result of the first referendum too?

Any situation that leaves half the country feeling that way is a horrendous place to be as a nation.

Either way it's critical we have leadership that wants to heal that division and bring people back together. Sorry to say that ain't Boris. He will just make it worse

We get that all the time with general elections, i doubt in my lifetime the number voting for the new government would have been over 45%

 

 

[G STAR RAM]

37 minutes ago, Paul71 said:

Has there ever been one?

I dont recall one in my lifetime (I'm 40 years old).

That's why I find it pointless when people go on about re-uniting the country or healing the divides.

Just wont happen.

[Sith Happens]

1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said:

I dont recall one in my lifetime (I'm 40 years old).

That's why I find it pointless when people go on about re-uniting the country or healing the divides.

Just wont happen.

The problem is, and evidenced by many posts on here, that people have strong views and find it incredulous that others could possibly think differently, even to the point that insults and accusations start getting thrown.

Nothing wrong with strong views aslong as there is an acceptance that those views are individual and cannot be forced on any one else.

No arguments have been won in this thread. 

 

[Van der MoodHoover]

Jo Swinson and her mighty norks were in our local hospital today (Southampton). It does appear that politicians are popping up in all sorts of unexpected places.

Southampton is red/blue. The surrounding districts have recently been libdem (romsey, eastleigh and Winchester) but she didn't go there.

All very puzzling.

[Sith Happens]

2 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Jo Swinson and her mighty norks were in our local hospital today (Southampton). It does appear that politicians are popping up in all sorts of unexpected places.

Southampton is red/blue. The surrounding districts have recently been libdem (romsey, eastleigh and Winchester) but she didn't go there.

All very puzzling.

Maybe she was just keeping a breast of matters.

[alexxxxx]

This is debate is awful. 

[1967Ram]

8 minutes ago, alexxxxx said:

This is debate is awful. 

It's not good I agree. The best I can say is that it's not as bas as I thought it was going to be!

[Angry Ram]

Rubbish, not a punch thrown yet.

[Gritstone Ram]

That stupid bint kept cutting Johnson off.

[TuffLuff]

2 minutes ago, Van Gritters said:

That stupid bint kept cutting Johnson off.

Because he kept going over by trying to make everything about his one and only real policy in this election, get brexit zzzzzz’

[alexxxxx]

Johnson came with a game plan to push labour's brexit issues. I believe he looked silly when he didn't answer properly questions posed to him. 

Corbyn should have changed his glasses... And it's clear his brexit indecision will lose him the election. 

[Rev]

1 minute ago, Van Gritters said:

That stupid bint kept cutting Johnson off.

He was on the Oxford Union debating society, I'm sure he didn't take it personally.

Maybe he should make his answers short and to the point, rather than launching into a 'Get Brexit done' rant regardless of whether or not it was relevant to the question?

[G STAR RAM]

As engaged as I've become in politics over the last 3 years, I could not bring myself to watch it tonight.

Predictable car crash tv I bet.

Did anything new or interesting even get mentioned?

[TuffLuff]

To be honest am I the only one who’s more confused by the Conservative brexit plans rather than labour’s? isnt it essentially put enough MPs into parliament to push his preliminary brexit deal over the line...then what? 

[maxjam]

9 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

As engaged as I've become in politics over the last 3 years, I could not bring myself to watch it tonight.

Predictable car crash tv I bet.

Did anything new or interesting even get mentioned?

Nope, learned nothing new, wasn't a car crash but didn't learn anything we didn't already know. 

Johnson stuck to Brexit as much as possible, Corbyn sidestepped and was evasive about every Brexit question. 

 

*Disclaimer - didn't watch it myself, my wife passed that on!

[alexxxxx]

13 minutes ago, TuffLuff said:

To be honest am I the only one who’s more confused by the Conservative brexit plans rather than labour’s? isnt it essentially put enough MPs into parliament to push his preliminary brexit deal over the line...then what? 

Conservatives just hope that everyone forgets about the second half of the negotiations once the passports turn blue and theres duty free cigarettes again. General public don't really care about trade deals.