King Kevin Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: Everyone is a socialist if you look hard enough! Good memory ,True I am very passionate about looking after the old ,disadvantaged etc but can't stand the feckless idle tossers who I would starve back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 hours ago, Bound 2 tease said: Why can't Labour win enough seats to form a majority government ? Is this election rigged ? Have you been using fact check uk ? BTW A Labour majority = no need for an SNP deal. Go to Britain elects twitter account and just spend some time reading what is posted there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 What do people think about no one paying national insurance until they earn £12,000 and income tax until they earn £12,500? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, King Kevin said: Desperate to restore my reputation ,it's the president of Yugoslavia I was thinking of .Honest. Yugoslavia? how old's that photo???????? It's ok Ive got an up to date one......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Yugoslavia? how old's that photo???????? It's ok Ive got an up to date one......? Yep, that's Mrs Angry in the mornings for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 16 minutes ago, Uptherams said: What do people think about no one paying national insurance until they earn £12,000 and income tax until they earn £12,500? I think it sounds like a sop to the low paid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Angry Ram said: Yep, that's Mrs Angry in the mornings for sure. Cradle snatcher.........? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 43 minutes ago, SchtivePesley said: I think it sounds like a sop to the low paid. Such a Debbie Downer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimRam Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 3 hours ago, King Kevin said: Desperate to restore my reputation ,it's the president of Yugoslavia I was thinking of .Honest. Gets my X. I'll leave it to you to apply a "FTFY". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 2 hours ago, Uptherams said: What do people think about no one paying national insurance until they earn £12,000 and income tax until they earn £12,500? I think if you vote tory you will applaud it, but if you vote labour you will find anything you can thats wrong with it. Had labour stated it labour voters would applaud it and tory voters find anything they can that's wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, Paul71 said: I think if you vote tory you will applaud it, but if you vote labour you will find anything you can thats wrong with it. Had labour stated it labour voters would applaud it and tory voters find anything they can that's wrong with it. It just shows which party is lurching further to it's 'far' leaning. Most people don't want radical overhaul in reality such as what Labour proposes. Any other party leader and this would be a vote winning policy for Labour voters. These are the kind of policies and proposals i want to be seeing from Labour. They'll return to this, at the next election, hopefully. It's going to take a strong leader to have a clear out of the party though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Uptherams said: It just shows which party is lurching further to it's 'far' leaning. Most people don't want radical overhaul in reality such as what Labour proposes. Any other party leader and this would be a vote winning policy for Labour voters. These are the kind of policies and proposals i want to be seeing from Labour. They'll return to this, at the next election, hopefully. It's going to take a strong leader to have a clear out of the party though. Will labour vote in the right leader? they got the wrong milliband brother. Imho. Any chance David could come back. Or hillary benn maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Paul71 said: Will labour vote in the right leader? they got the wrong milliband brother. Imho. Any chance David could come back. Or hillary benn maybe. Keir Starmer I reckon would be intelligent and reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 24 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Keir Starmer I reckon would be intelligent and reasonable. I think starmer is a clever person but I still think he's looking out for himself rather than the party. Corbyn is very popular with the members and his policies ring well throughout the grass roots membership. Starmer, along with all his colleagues, quit in protest at Corbyn becoming leader. He supported Owen Smith for the leadership, the man who literally wrote the book on privatising the NHS. Starmer will say whatever propels his agenda, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, GboroRam said: I think starmer is a clever person but I still think he's looking out for himself rather than the party. Corbyn is very popular with the members and his policies ring well throughout the grass roots membership. Starmer, along with all his colleagues, quit in protest at Corbyn becoming leader. He supported Owen Smith for the leadership, the man who literally wrote the book on privatising the NHS. Starmer will say whatever propels his agenda, I confess that I don't follow the inner workings of the labour movement closely but do know that historically there has been great tension between the movement and the Parliamentary Party. There is then a complete paradox in that the people who are popular with the movement appear to have zero appeal outside of it. A younger more energetic and articulate Corbyn perhaps? Does such a person exist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 45 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: I confess that I don't follow the inner workings of the labour movement closely but do know that historically there has been great tension between the movement and the Parliamentary Party. There is then a complete paradox in that the people who are popular with the movement appear to have zero appeal outside of it. A younger more energetic and articulate Corbyn perhaps? Does such a person exist? Not saying she is a young Corbyn, bit Jess Phillips always seems great to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: Not saying she is a young Corbyn, bit Jess Phillips always seems great to me. Good call actually. She did a good speech on the intimidation of women MPs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 Jessperate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Ram Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, ariotofmyown said: Not saying she is a young Corbyn, bit Jess Phillips always seems great to me. Omg she’s a ten pinter if I ever saw one. It’s a no from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uptherams Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 4 hours ago, Paul71 said: Will labour vote in the right leader? they got the wrong milliband brother. Imho. Any chance David could come back. Or hillary benn maybe. It will end up being someone like Dan Jarvis. Labour needs a leader that accepts Brexit is a done thing and is pragmatic about immigration. He's someone capable of commanding a vote share into the 40's and a large majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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