Depression, anxiety, stress and other related issues

[i-Ram]

@David  Really sorry to learn that you continue to suffer with physical and mental turmoil. Hopefully someone soon will get to the bottom of this for you. All the best.

[Day]

Just now, i-Ram said:

Hopefully someone soon will get into the bottom

Fixed.

[Boycie]

Well I’m turning your water off tomorrow so get lots of buckets filled up if you're thinking of pebble dashing the pan while I’m working.

And turn the extractor on.

[Day]

21 minutes ago, Boycie said:

Well I’m turning your water off tomorrow so get lots of buckets filled up if you're thinking of pebble dashing the pan while I’m working.

And turn the extractor on.

Never thought about that. Wouldn't use the downstairs toilet after me. Use the bathroom upstairs ?

[Coneheadjohn]

3 hours ago, David said:

Having shared my health issues on the defunct podcast, I figured I would give an update to the regular listeners, if anyone else is interested read on. Will be a long post, definitely not looking for any kind of sympathy, if anything I am an absolute idiot for trying to wait it out.

If anyone follows my Instagram or Twitter will probably be aware I had a bit of a rough day yesterday, just wasn't up for coming on the forum despite the humour which was on display about the situation. 

For those that didn't listen to the podcast, around 3 years ago in the August whilst taking a multivitamin I swallowed my partial denture for a tooth I broke and had to have removed. This partial denture covered the room of my mouth, it's not a small thing to swallow.

Since that went down the hatch I have had nothing stomach issues ever since, quite bad, but chose to tough it out.

I went to A&E where I had X-Rays, nothing, it was only after they questioned me more on the denture and when they realised it had no metal it was a complete waste of time. Was sent home with funny looks and told to return if I had any chest pains. Never had any and a few weeks passed, nothing else as far as I'm aware I had crippling pain in my stomach so went into A&E, X-Ray'd me again and the verdict was I was full of poo. Literally.

Drink plenty of water and I would be fine, wasn't concerned by the denture at all. 

Then nothing, nothing but more pain. Every day. Anxiety set it, toilet trips had become horrendous adventures. I tried various diets, gluten free, low fodmap which I'm still on to this day despite it not really helping. I have taken a bit of stick for not going to games for the last season, season and half, but when some days it's a challenge to even get off the toilet, travelling 2 and half hours to Pride Park and bouncing in the South Stand with Lampard would not have been good. 

Actually tried to make a U23 game one night, guessed with less fans toilets wouldn't be the same issue. Had to turn back half way there due to traffic, got stuck in a pile up over a crash and wouldn't have made kick off. 

Season ticket still renewed for this season, determined to get back on my feet and back in the SS, takes away the whole should I buy a match ticket or not. Call me weird but also this club has supported the forum a lot, £400 on a season ticket supports them back. Every penny counts in this FFP world.

Anyhow, in the 3 years I have gone from a unhealthy (due to alcohol and KFC) 18st 5lb stone to 10st 10lb, XL to S, 38" waist to 31". I was always thin until I hit 21, then everything I ate stuck to me like glue because of the alcohol.

I went to a GP in the January but due to the anxiety they didn't think I would be up for the MRI, had to sort the anxiety first, which he believed was giving me the pains, but wasn't willing to give me anything for it. I wasn't up for being a zombie and was told he can see I'm mentally strong enough to get over this with coping mechanisms which I already reeled off a list to him. I've read a lot on anxiety and I mean a lot. I'm an unprofessional expert. Kinda.

So that's where it really got left. Truth to be told the anxiety hasn't improved, pains have got worse. And then yesterday. Well it started on Wednesday night where I visited the toilet every hour from 5pm, through the night, barely slept. Eat 3 Vindaloo's back to back and that might trigger the same reaction. Now baring in mind my diet is down to pretty much potato, chicken, fish something wasn't right.

Yesterday around 10.30 emptying what seemed to be a never ending supply of rear sewage I had a sharp pain in my stomach, how I'm guessing you would feel had you been stabbed. My stomach went numb an pretty much took my legs away from me. Crawled back to the sofa, with an odd numb, throbbing pain.

Home alone, as I was when swallowing the denture I freaked out a little, thought this was the day I had been waiting for convinced this denture would rupture something. Crawled to the front door to unlock it as the plan was to ring an ambulance, the pain was that severe when trying to walk just brought me back to my knees.

11.18am and 4 minutes on the phone to 999 they suggested I either walk to the hospital or go to my local GP before advising me to ring 111 before disconnecting. I wasn't life threatening to them.

111 was a 20 minute call, trying to replay a story to someone on the phone wasn't easy in so much pain but the 2nd operator in agreed to send an ambulance but I'm not priority and would be with me within 2 hours.

Phoned the missus, no answer. She works an hour away.

Used my second life line and phoned a friend who dragged me into his car, on arriving at the hospital the queue for A&E reception was out the main doors. This would have been an hour wait just to get to reception so we went back to mine to wait out for the ambulance. 

Ambulance arrived just after 4pm, 5hrs later, by now the pain had dulled a little but the paramedics were concerned and hauled me in the back and wheeled me off to hospital, bypassing all the walk ins I was put on a IV straight away and looked at super quick.

I will skip the next further 5 hours of what he and she said, but after a finger up the rear and 5 hours of tests my blood showed inflammation of the bowl.

The surgeon I think she said she was, debated over a CT scan last night, keeping me in or letting me go and come back in the morning. It was to check for signs of Colitis or Diverticulitis which they believe it is.

I questioned if the denture would show on this, what denture? I then had to explain from the start again how the pains all started from this, quickly scuttled away to speak with the registrar after informing me they will probably scan me tonight and keep me in.

10 minutes later, I'm told it's highly unlikely, almost impossible that the denture is still inside me after this long. They have seen much large items pass through the system and out the other end. Not convinced I keep pushing her on this, and told you would be surprised what the human body can do. Missus gave me the I told you so look. As they do.

Also because of the material a CT scan would not show it up. On the advice from this unseen registrar the denture was not any concern, that's long gone, Colitis or Diverticulitis is the main concern and to have this confirmed they need to run a Colonoscopy. 

I pushed for a MRI scan still believing this all can't be a coincidence with the timing but was told they wouldn't do one just for my peace of mind, I argued the case of the bloke that swallowed a plastic fork and was in him for 10 years which I read online, I was told to stay off the internet, no chance.

So that's basically where I am. Trawling through Colitis information last night, all sounds like me, even have the mouth ulcers and dodgy joints to go with it. Sounds plausible and despite being a life long condition after this long I have no fear over a diagnosis as medication is available, if I can return to a "normal" life whilst managing the symptoms it's better than the alternative of nothing found, MRI now....oh look the denture, under the knife you go and selling my story to The Sun for £100.

As I say, the reason I'm posting this isn't sympathy, definitely don't want any, my own fault for doing a Nigel Pearson for 3 years, I should have been hammering down the GP door every week. 

That's your update and as for the podcast, maybe one day if they figure this out, don't want to commit to anything when I feel so crap.

A few things we’ve learned that probably won’t help.

If you worried you going to need to get it checked so you can rule it out and move on.

Will an MRI do it?

Any surgical tool that ends in scopy is like a form of medieval torture.

Would it be worth getting a private consultation with a specialist,it could cost you 250 quid for up to an hour but they will usually tell you what it is and then do the treatment on their NHS clinic,we’ve used this and it’s saved loads of time and hassle.

Everything with the NHS is sinking under a double booked,over worked under staffed mess,with lots of good people fighting a losing battle to hold it together.

Have you moved yet?

I forgot to suggest an immunologist,they will do blood tests for everything and find any defects or bacteria,they are shockingly overworked but they can do most tests on site.

I nearly ended up doing a Falling Down(I didn’t have an RPG)in the immunology dept of the Northern General.

 

Edited July 19, 2019 by Van Cone De Head

[Day]

7 minutes ago, Van Cone De Head said:

A few things we’ve learned that probably won’t help.

If you worried you going to need to get it checked so you can rule it out and move on.

Will an MRI do it?

Any surgical tool that ends in scopy is like a form of medieval torture.

Would it be worth getting a private consultation with a specialist,it could cost you 250 quid for up to an hour but they will usually tell you what it is and then do the treatment on their NHS clinic,we’ve used this and it’s saved loads of time and hassle.

Everything with the NHS is sinking under a double booked,over worked under staffed mess,with lots of good people fighting a losing battle to hold it together.

Have you moved yet?

They won't do a MRI for peace of mind, but say a Colonoscopy diagnoses Colitis that would give me peace of mind. 

If they don't find any issues then the MRI is the next step anyway, so it's kind of a win/win situation really.

NHS is in a sorry state, as I was discharged the corridors had people lying in beds, main waiting area rammed with queues still out the door. Just a normal Thursday.

I'm sure there would have been a time when my 999 call would have seen one roll up in under 5 minutes, but now you are quizzed and assed for 5 minutes. Guessing if you say unconscious or chest pain it might be different, looking back calling one for what could be Colitis is a bit daft, but then you don't know that when you're in so much pain and no other way of getting seen by a professional.

[DarkFruitsRam7]

@David, maybe this explains why Chris Martin has been so crap on loan. 

[McRamFan]

8 hours ago, David said:

around 3 years ago in the August whilst taking a multivitamin I swallowed my partial denture for a tooth I broke and had to have removed

For what is worth, any denture has to be manufactured to the same standard of food.  That is true to anything you put into your mouth, including cigarette butts.

You stomach acid would have dissolved the denture, the acid in the stomach can dissolve steel. Please don't swallow a spoon to test this!

http://www.industrytap.com/stomach-acid-can-dissolve-metal/34295

[Day]

8 minutes ago, McRamFan said:

For what is worth, any denture has to be manufactured to the same standard of food.  That is true to anything you put into your mouth, including cigarette butts.

You stomach acid would have dissolved the denture, the acid in the stomach can dissolve steel. Please don't swallow a spoon to test this!

http://www.industrytap.com/stomach-acid-can-dissolve-metal/34295

Not always https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2189724/amp/Patient-40-inch-plastic-fork-trapped-stomach-TEN-YEARS-accidentally-swallowed-it.html

[Steve How Hard?]

That all sounds pretty horrific @David. Good luck with getting a diagnosis and a return to normality. Must be incredibly frustrating as there seems to be no way forward until you know what the problem is. It is no wonder your mental health is struggling. Keep posting if it helps. The same goes to everyone else that has posted on this thread. There are plenty of people on here that care and are willing to listen and help if they can. 

[Anna]

10 hours ago, David said:

Having shared my health issues on the defunct podcast, I figured I would give an update to the regular listeners, if anyone else is interested read on. Will be a long post, definitely not looking for any kind of sympathy, if anything I am an absolute idiot for trying to wait it out.

....

Sorry to hear about this, sounds like a long and horrible journey for you. Hopefully you get some answers and respite soon.

I always always assumed you lived in Derby for some reason (when you mentioned about travelling to games it took me by surprise).

All the best ?

[ketteringram]

@David hope you get some respite and something resolved very soon. Gone on for far too long. 

Anxiety, I sadly know too much about. The doctors, and hospital stuff I've been lucky to have little to do with myself so far. But over the past few months, I've spent a lot of time at the hospital, with an elderly relative. Several admissions. Many hours, days in AE and then EDU waiting for a bed etc etc. Can't really leave him there as he can't communicate at all, and can hardly see or hear (he's had several strokes).  The A and E in particular is chaotic to say the least. It's an awful place for a confused old fella to be. 

[MaltRam]

Since my wife died, it's been a bit of a scrap to keep plodding on, but I've been making progress. Back at work, back talking objectionable poo on here, trying to get out and about...

Aside from our kids, the biggest thing that's dragged me out of bed to do anything in a morning has been our dog. He's a lovely lad and I've been completely converted from cat person to dog person. My late wife always wanted a pup as a girl but her old man wouldn't have it, so when we found out she was terminally ill we got him to tick it off her bucket list. Not only is he a link to my late wife, but his complete devotion to us and bouncy enthusiasm helps bond us together.

He's only 18 months old, but he's sick. I've been up with him since first light and just had to drop him at the vet for various tests. He's been sick till there's nothing but bile, not drinking, not moving, struggling to breathe and I'm scared of what they're going to find. 

Watching him helpless, hoping for every next breath, the echoes of nursing my missus in her last weeks are ripping all the old wounds open. If he goes, I'm never again having another living thing in my life I care a poo about. The pain of caring and losing isn't worth the joy.

ducking savage low this morning. 

[Mostyn6]

saddened by reading your situation @Needlesh 

I can only offer the cliched words of time will make things better and easier. I too am a massive lover of dogs, and am not afraid to say that I prefer them to humans as an average. (the evilest human is way worse than the naughtiest dog!). I don't think I know you, and don't recall your wife passing (ie. reading it here), so belated sympathies if there are such a thing. 

Please keep posting if it helps getting things off your mind, and hope your boy makes a quick and painless recovery. 

[MaltRam]

1 minute ago, Mostyn6 said:

saddened by reading your situation @Needlesh 

I can only offer the cliched words of time will make things better and easier. I too am a massive lover of dogs, and am not afraid to say that I prefer them to humans as an average. (the evilest human is way worse than the naughtiest dog!). I don't think I know you, and don't recall your wife passing (ie. reading it here), so belated sympathies if there are such a thing. 

Please keep posting if it helps getting things off your mind, and hope your boy makes a quick and painless recovery. 

Cheers Mostyn...I dropped off here for a while during her illness and only came back on after she died.

Doggo currently being operated on. No idea what to expect. Waiting for a call. More scared and forlorn right now than a middle aged man ought to be in the circumstances I guess.

[Mostyn6]

5 minutes ago, Needlesh said:

More scared and forlorn right now than a middle aged man ought to be in the circumstances I guess.

Sorry to pull you up on this, but there is no age restriction on being human and having emotions. I'd be more embarrassed/ashamed for not having an emotional reaction to family issues. You've quite concisely stated how much and why your dog is very important to you, and how he represents a link to something (a time) and someone (a person) that you don't want to forget.

Never be apologetic for being true to your feelings. That said, I do hope your fear turns out to be unwarranted x

[MaltRam]

7 minutes ago, Mostyn6 said:

Sorry to pull you up on this, but there is no age restriction on being human and having emotions. I'd be more embarrassed/ashamed for not having an emotional reaction to family issues. You've quite concisely stated how much and why your dog is very important to you, and how he represents a link to something (a time) and someone (a person) that you don't want to forget.

Never be apologetic for being true to your feelings. That said, I do hope your fear turns out to be unwarranted x

Fair. I've spent so long trying to hold everything together for those around me, that I don't really know what else to do.

[Mostyn6]

3 minutes ago, Needlesh said:

Fair. I've spent so long trying to hold everything together for those around me, that I don't really know what else to do.

one of the "reasons" men struggle so much with mental health, we put ourselves under pressure to keep a lid on everything.

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

On ‎19‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 12:32, Van Cone De Head said:

A few things we’ve learned that probably won’t help.

If you worried you going to need to get it checked so you can rule it out and move on.

Will an MRI do it?

Any surgical tool that ends in scopy is like a form of medieval torture.

Would it be worth getting a private consultation with a specialist,it could cost you 250 quid for up to an hour but they will usually tell you what it is and then do the treatment on their NHS clinic,we’ve used this and it’s saved loads of time and hassle.

Everything with the NHS is sinking under a double booked,over worked under staffed mess,with lots of good people fighting a losing battle to hold it together.

Have you moved yet?

I forgot to suggest an immunologist,they will do blood tests for everything and find any defects or bacteria,they are shockingly overworked but they can do most tests on site.

I nearly ended up doing a Falling Down(I didn’t have an RPG)in the immunology dept of the Northern General.

 

I've also gone down this road on more than one occasion,  I don't trust the NHS as it is simply not thorough enough- seen this time and again with family and friends- so pay the same consultant £250 quid to do the same job but with more care. It's a strange world .   Anyway ,  a new system in place re the above - you can have a private consultation but then you cannot get referred straight to an NHS waiting list. You now have to go back to your GP and get re- reffered .  Bonkers.  You will notice that the Nuffield is basically becoming an offshoot of the NHS as so many people are now going past the 2 week referral for suspected nastiness. 

Please also be aware that if you go private, althougth its the last thing you are thinking about when you get there- ensure the consultant provides a full costing as I got stung once for £650 for cleaning a camera they shoved in my nose .

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

On ‎19‎/‎07‎/‎2019 at 12:51, David said:

They won't do a MRI for peace of mind, but say a Colonoscopy diagnoses Colitis that would give me peace of mind. 

If they don't find any issues then the MRI is the next step anyway, so it's kind of a win/win situation really.

NHS is in a sorry state, as I was discharged the corridors had people lying in beds, main waiting area rammed with queues still out the door. Just a normal Thursday.

I'm sure there would have been a time when my 999 call would have seen one roll up in under 5 minutes, but now you are quizzed and assed for 5 minutes. Guessing if you say unconscious or chest pain it might be different, looking back calling one for what could be Colitis is a bit daft, but then you don't know that when you're in so much pain and no other way of getting seen by a professional.

Obviously, you're doing what you can to deal with this so may be preaching to the converted.  My mother in law had very similar symptoms to this -in fact identical including the hourly loo trips .- and was diagnosed with Diverticulitis after three days in hospital .  One of the biggest no-no's was tomatos to prevent flare up's but she wasn't told this for a year - just in case it's that .