G STAR RAM

3 hours ago, Wolfie20 said:

"almost everyone would agree" based on what exactly?

Surprised you picked up on this point rather than 'we are not a div 1 club'.

Has nobody told him?

13 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

No surprise there, married to you. 😄

Nah, to be fair she is still miserable and moaning now, guess it's just how some people prefer to go through life!

9 hours ago, Chris_Martin said:

aren't the majority of those goals/assists just from set pieces though

No

8 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Thanks mate, I always thought you were a bit, shall we say, lacking in certain areas! 😄

Have you been speaking to my ex wife?

Actually, are you my ex wife? She was always miserable and moaning too!

Sorry but Ive already voted for @RoyMac5

24 minutes ago, Anag Ram said:

However, in order to grow as a football club, we do need to play a better standard of football to get any joy against better opposition.

Is there anything to back this statement up?

Didn't we play great football under McClaren and Lampard and end up losing millions and millions of pounds every season, eventually leading to us being put under restrictions and nearly going bust. Not sure how that can be seen as growing as a football club?

43 minutes ago, BaianoPOTY98 said:

I dont support Man City😉

Doesn't sound like you'll be supporting Derby next season either 😉

28 minutes ago, Sparkle said:

Is this to influence their appeal this week? 

Personally I think they shouldn’t turn up for their next league game just like Middlesbrough didn’t a good few years ago 😉

To be fair, their players haven't turned up for 90% of the games this season, so 1 more shouldn't do any harm.

9 hours ago, Crewton said:

I've just seen the three incidents on motd2. My take would be:

- first one, tap on the heel, ridiculous dive, no penalty.

- second one, ball strikes defenders arm from a yard away, arm in a natural position, seen em given, but not a penalty IMO.

- third one, yep, didn't get the ball, 100% penalty 😂

You saw it exactly the same as me.

1 and 2 are sometimes given but shouldnt be.

Number 3 looked stonewall.

18 hours ago, rammieib said:

It can be - but I think Nelson and Cashin have been better performers in their positions than I think Wildsmith has in his. I might be wrong but I don’t believe Nelson has made a single error leading to an opposition goal this year and Cashin maybe similar. 

Im happy if he’s my GK next season, I won’t lose sleep if he isn’t. 

Nelson made a very shaky start from memory but has been immense the last 3 quarters of the season.

I had him down at fault for the Portsmouth first goal.

Cashin same for me, a dodgy start but, as he forged a partnership with Nelson, has been excellent. 

However, I do think back to Lincoln where Cashin has his pants round his ankles for most of the game.

Wildsmiths form has been up and down but he has more than played his part, especially considering that he saved his best performance of the season for Bolton at home.

On 21/04/2024 at 01:10, BaianoPOTY98 said:

Paul Warne barring a complete disaster has done his job, fair play to him and Clowes got it bang right 👌 but this is not the football I wanna watch week in week out, great that Warne has done his job and taken us up but sorry that’s not for me next year 😢

Try and get a season ticket at Man City then?

On 20/04/2024 at 21:48, Bris Vegas said:

The reason why it’s more evident with Warne is because he won’t get more out of players. He isn’t a top coach like a Farke or Bielsa.

If our team is bottom three standard, then we will go down with him.

If our team is bottom six standard, then we will finish bottom six with him.

While some managers can get more out of players and have the team achieving more than their actual ability (Neil Warnock as an example), Paul Warne doesn’t fall into that category as shown by his Rotherham spells.

 

Where he had them on the brink of the Championship play offs before coming here you mean?

Another thread where b4 is sorely missed.

He'd have no trouble in knocking a song together for Mr Clowes.

2 hours ago, Premier ram said:

Daniel would of loved these last two games his rallying cries would of been legendary

 

                      

Reckon he would have started at least 3 threads this week 😂 

What do you guys think?

3 hours ago, RoyMac5 said:

Well I guess the Prem teams like Chelsea have found out that having a good manager to spend the money is just if not more important. We're down in League 1 because we had points deducted not because we bought bad players or were out played. 

I enjoyed last season more than this, and if this season ends in promotion I'll be glad to get out of this League.

We would have been in League One the season before were it not for Sheff Wed points deduction.

2 minutes ago, Kernow said:

First promotion for 17 years. First automatic promotion for nearly 30 years. Let’s counter your argument and say you think that finishing 3rd, playing good football but failing where it really matters is an achievement?

The arrogant attitude that anything less than running away with the title with triple figure points is a failure is why big clubs like Sunderland, Ipswich, Notts Forest etc got stuck down here for longer.

Less than two years ago we had about 6 players, no academy, no manager and had to play pre-season in temporary shirts because we didn’t even have kits. We were also put under restrictions, which still haven’t run out yet. So yes, I think getting automatic promotion in this timeframe is an achievement. A very good one, actually.

You could add in - most points accumulated in a season, most away wins in a season, best goal difference, but I still think you'd be wasting your time.

Sky TV has somehow managed to programme alot of fans into thinking successful pass completion, higher xG and touches in the opposition penalty area are all more important than the above...

2 hours ago, Srg said:

Well, I hate to side with Forest fans on anything but their club is well and truly screwing their fans over. 

They’ve announced their season ticket prices and they’re frankly disgusting. Tickets going up 200% in 2 years, shifting age categories so some tickets going up £700… you name it, they’re doing it. My missus, for my sins, has a season ticket and hers has gone up £200 since the Championship - and this is after giving them money during COVID to keep them going. 

Meanwhile, the club gleefully crow about having 10,000 on a season ticket waiting list. Pay up, or another customer (not fan, customer) will do.

Latest in a long line of things where their ownership really doesn’t get the difference between fans and customers. Premier league? You can keep it. 

Going up 200% and it's only gone up £200, sounds like they were pretty cheap to start with!

10 minutes ago, Simmo’s left foot said:

Incredible really, here we are on the cusp of bagging promotion with club record points and still there are "Fans" who are more interested in agitating for a change in manager. I think Lionel had the right idea some years ago telling such people what they could do. Take a trip down the A52 if I recall. Top chap Lionel and we all owe a debt to him. I remember when he appointed Jim Smith and many also moaned.

Fingers crossed for crossing the line and I'm hoping Warne will do a good job developing the squad and establishing us as a middle third upwardly looking championship team next season, which is what he has been given the target to do by the board.

I'm very thankful we have an astute owner, who is putting the club on a stable footing, and not sacking managers all the time.

As fondly as I remember some of the days under LP, it must also be remembered that he put the very existence of our club at risk, chasing a dream. 

We've had 2 local businessmen pour a lot of money into the club before and us end up on the edge of a cliff. Like you, I'm hoping for 3rd time lucky with David Clowes. 

4 minutes ago, TINMANTED said:

if we do get out of this nightmare,i for one would like to say goodbye to warne,i cannot bare the thought of another season of watching this brand of whatever it is.the gamble of warne using what little bit of money we have on players for warne ball and having to reset at christmas with an empty kitty would be too great in my opinion

But you think the gamble of paying off Warne and his backroom staff (with w years left on their contract) rather than using them funds to let Warne strengthen our squad is a good idea?

By Warne Ball do you mean lots of goals scored and not many conceded?

2 hours ago, DavesaRam said:

My apologies, G-Star. It is my opinion, a d expressing our opinions is what this forum runs on for all of us. But it doesn’t mean that I insist what my opinion is right.

I have received a few pelters since last Saturday, so to make sure everybody is happy after the next match thread, could somebody kindly post a list of permitted opinions, please? It would be really helpful.

Once again, as per your last reply, not sure why you are apologising?

As you say this is a forum for for opinions and I think it's quite acceptable to challenge/have your own opinions challenged.

I don't think I've said anything out of turn or abusive to you and, if I did, I'd have no problem with you pointing it out to me.

As for receiving pelters since last Saturday, once again, as long as there were no personal insults, I think you fully deserved them for what you posted. It was not an opinion that you gave, just a crass insult about two of our players and our manager. I'd suggest that if you're going to take the hump when you get called out on posts like that, it may be a good idea to consider what you post more carefully in the future rather than what people do and don't find acceptable.

As I said in my first post, I enjoy reading your posts, just feel on this occasion you overstepped the mark. 

6 minutes ago, Andicis said:

Not saying what I think Clowes will do, this is all of course just my opinion.

The sense is that it gives us the opportunity to build a squad for a new manager with a new direction and a clean slate. 

I would argue that it could well be a wise use of resources as the alternative could be far more costly. 

Say if we are to invest everything into the team Warne wants, and things don't work in the Championship, aren't we then entrenched into the Warne style by having players purchased to play that way? 

My opinion on the style of play is based from what we've seen so far. Maybe it'll change with better players, I imagine that fundamentally it will be the same as we've seen. Personally, I don't really enjoy that. Some people probably do which is fair enough, but you have to admit that at the very least the style is polarising amongst the fans which is never a positive. 

Say if we sack and pay off Warne, hire a new manager and his way of playing does not come off and he has us hovering around the relegation zone, will it still have been a wise use of resources?

10 minutes ago, Andicis said:

Naturally. But meeting a short term goal isn't the be all and end all. 

I'd say we'd have to reign our next goal in if we are blowing money on paying off Warne and his coaching team with 2 years left on their contracts. 

Doubt we would be much of a pull for any potential managers if we'd just sacked one that got us promoted.

1 hour ago, Andicis said:

I'm sure this is a controversial take, but if we see out the job and secure promotion I think we should give Warne our sincere thanks, a good bonus and a full pay out of his contract and then we should part ways. 

Nothing against him personally, but I don't think the way we play football is sustainable for Derby in the long run, and I'm not sure Warne is the right man to take us any further. 

I'm sure that's not the way it will go, I just have a strong feeling that next year will be rough if we stay the same course.

I'm assuming that you are expecting Clowes to fund this pay off of his employee that will have just met his goal?

Hopefully, Clowes will realise the money will be better spent on funding the squad for next season.

2 hours ago, Oldben said:

Warnes a relegation specialist, he was relegated twice with Rotherham. We're those Rotherham teams stronger than the current Derby team. The assumption is third time successful but we drew with Portsmouth Fc, so I'd say we are not championship ready.

 

He has been promoted 3 times so surely he is a promotion specialist?

I assume you think we had to win every game this season to be ready for The Championship judging by your last line then?

9 minutes ago, goodgollymickbrolly said:

Kinda of begs the question why are you in this thread then?🤷‍♂️

To have a look who won the awards?