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Nothing will give me greater pleasure today than finding out that this man has lost his job, will get a football banning order and will soon be sentenced after pleading guilty.
It's about time more people realise that actions have consequences. 
At the same time, massive kudos to the regular Sheffield Wednesday supporters who have now raised over £18,000 for the Bradley Lowery Foundation after being appalled by the idiotic behaviour of one fan. 
(I thought there was already a thread about this but can't find it.)

If David Clowes hadn’t saved the Club you wouldn’t be on here constantly moaning. Possibly Don Amott might be the subject of your negativity instead. In my view Clowes has carte  blanche to do whatever he wishes for a few years yet. He will run the Club as he sees fit and employ who he wants to employ. The Club is gradually being transformed totally I guess, even if most of us aren’t aware of the steps being taken.
First and foremost Clowes is a Derby County fan - he is totally aware of our current internal situation (unlike us) and no doubt, just like us would like to see better performances than we have seen so far. The only difference is that he has stumped up millions to save our club - I know you have bought your season ticket and have you travelling costs. But there is a huge difference and I think he deserves our support, rather than questioning his early tenure. If he believes that Pearce is the right person to employ, knowing fully what has happened in the past, then who are we the question his decision.
Under Paul Warne our away results have improved, lest we not forget previous terrible runs. We do need to improve at home, but for many visiting teams a visit to Pride Park is their FA Cup Final and make things difficult for us.I am sure things will improve as some of our players return. We have had cruel luck with injuries so far and I just don’t buy the idea that these are caused by the current training regime (which of course to many is Paul Warner’s fault too).
For goodness sake, there are a few “fans” who need to bite their lips and not behave like spoilt children because they can’t immediately have all the toys for Christmas they wanted. If you can’t support our Club, in these early years of rebuild, go and “support” some other club or start your own Forum “ Negative Rams Members Only”. There are a few that would love to contribute.

Had things not been resolved we could have been reading something like:-
Northern Conference League Division Three
Racecourse Derby
16/9/23
Derby Phoenix 0 - 1 Etwall Reserves
Let’s be thankful for what we’ve got!

I keep seeing this lack of interest in the academy players for the first team accusation thrown at warne , do we not realise our academy has had its heart ripped out just as much as the rest of the club ,,, perhaps we are trying to bring in young players and build an under 21 team that has a base and some stability without the need to keep pulling them into the first team for a while , from what I hear our under 21 s are getting beaten game on game , maybe there’s a thought process of building a regular competitive team there again , getting bashed up regularly is not a good confidence builder in young players to step up to first team football, we are rebuilding the WHOLE club from the brink of extinction and bare bones 🤷🏻‍♂️

I think Warne is doing a good job under difficult circumstances...which I don't need to state here ...as surely we all understand the turmoil we've been through and the millions we've wasted over  the years. Warne has a proven track record at this level and I'd be surprised if we didn't get promotion this year / next year....and yes, it might not be pretty.
If football was an exact science then at least one of those 17 managers we've had since 2007 would have achieved success for us...but no - only failure. Football fans want instant success...I get that...but it rarely happens does it. I for one want stability at my club and not this constant merry go round of management change...which has got us where we are today...coupled with a cavalier attitude to financial management....UTR

Anyone who votes not happy to 3 points, regardless how it was one, are a little strange in my point of view. Surely,  even if you get 3 points in a scrappy way is better than not getting any points. Imagine playing badly and losing.  There would be a few who would be needing sectioning.  I am not happy with the style of play at the moment.  But give me 3 points every time.  Hopefully the confidence will build and the performances will follow. 

Whilst we bash away, mostly anonymously behind the keyboard, just go take a second to see what Josh Vickers is going through right now, Ed, just like us all is a real person. 
Regardless of how you feel about him as a person or his commentary style there is absolutely no need for personal stuff towards a fellow Derby fan.
Seriously, come on, have a word with yourselves.
 

Brentford and Brighton are where they are after 10-15 years of gradual building. Bloom has been owner of Brighton since 2009 and Benham has been owner of Brentford since 2012 and has been an investor since 2007.
Yes, both clubs are great examples of how to get things right. But over that time period, they have had near misses and some highs and lows too. It hasn’t been completely smooth sailing but they have developed a club philosophy and stayed true to it and probably been able to because of the relatively low expectations.
Clowes has been owner of the club for just over a year so perhaps we need to be patient and understand that what Clowes is trying to build and trying to instil will take more than 12 months.
Perhaps a fairer comparison is other clubs who have come out of administration and bounced back from relegation?
It took Leeds three seasons to get promoted out of League 1 following administration and relegation. It took Southampton two seasons. Bolton suffered back to back relegations and are now into their fourth campaign in five in League 1.
Yes, the football isn’t great at the moment but the club is in recovery mode and perhaps we have to be realistic about those timescales. Expecting us to get promoted playing champagne football at this stage in our recovery is only something you might witness in a fairytale.
Stick with the club. Keep going to games when you can. Pain often comes before glory.

If David Clowes starts firing all and sundry, battling the FA, cheekily admitting to trying to find financial loopholes, spending millions on players with inflated wages then yes I'll agree - but he has been very measured in his first year at the helm and the club has made great strides.
I also don't think handing Paul Warne a 4yr contract was a bad thing as others have highlighted.  It shows a pragmatic and long term approach to rebuilding both the first team and the academy.  The alternative would have seen us sack PW for finishing 7th last year and me starting to look nervously at my first paragraph.
Whilst I understand the caution and distrust, lets not mention MM in the same breath as David Clowes.  One courted the limelight, famous ex-pro's and gave grand press conferences talking about 'The Derby Way'.  The other has quietly put the club on an even keel financially and is rebuilding our reputation with the EFL and other clubs.  He has also been working with Stephen Pearce for well over a year now so I assume he knows more about him than any of us do.

I've not the slightest doubt we will. OK, we're not in a great place at the minute & seeing the treetards monopolising their moment in the sun isn't helping but football has always been cyclical. 
Luton dropped into non-league & were there for 5 years - they're now top division. Brighton were on the verge of dropping out of the League - they're now in the Europa League. Coventry were homeless & in League Two but 4 months ago were on the verge of going back to the top flight. Things can change very quickly in football & we've seen that ourselves - we went from nearly bankrupt in Division 3 in 1984 to a UEFA Cup spot by 1989.
The most important commodity for success isn't money, it's stability & establishing a consistent club ethos focusing on marginal gains. Notwithstanding doubts about the current manager, the infrastructure being built by the club is exactly what we need to be consistently successful over the long term. I suspect when our time does come, we will absolutely fly. Keep the faith 🐏💪

There are a number of things that you need to have success, lady luck being an important one. Over the last 10 years, we've had more than our share of bad luck.
It seemed to start with that play off final, the most one sided final that was won by the 'wrong' team. Then we made our key signing in Thorne, who was forever injured, who knows what could have been with a fit George. This was to be repeated with Bielik, again another key player who could have made a difference. We then lost 3 managers due to 'interest' from other teams, SM, who's head was turned by Newcastle, Rowett poached by Stoke and the drawn out saga with Frank going to Chelsea. None of them went on to succeed at any of those clubs, as we could have told them before hand. 
Constant new managers required constant changes to playing personnel and MM was only too happy to fork out the club's money, to back them, in doing so, trying to be clever with EFL rules. Then on top of this, we had Covid, an unforeseeable occurrence which it could be argued affected Derby more than any other club, having the biggest gates outside the premier league and parachute teams.
To compound these problems, MM decided to pull the plug, instead of following through with his promises, no administration would be no 12 points deduction, in fact he should have stuck to his guns and challenged the other 9 points in court. Without these deductions we should still be in the championship and not lost a generation of young talent that our academy had nurtured. It's a crying shame when you thing of all those young players that we lost for nothing or next to nothing. Other 'bad' owners have not let this happen to a big club, they've either continued to back the club until they could get shot of it, without pulling the plug. It doesn't help that the EFL seem to be more vindictive against us when compared with other clubs' misdemeanours. 
We are at the start of a new era, but have been dogged by poor refereeing decisions over the last 14 months and now we have suffered 5 long term injuries to our small squad, only 6 games into the season.
It's about time we got some good fortune, even average fortune would do.
I'm trying my best, I'm already on my third 'lucky' shirt for home games and my second for away matches.🙄

You’re not comparing like with like.  Clough had around 4.5 years, Warne’s not had one yet.  Clough could spend, Warne can’t, or at least unless he sells 1 or 2.  Clough didn’t have EFL restrictions, Warne does or did which severely hampered him in January.  Clough didn’t have to build from bottom up, Warne (or maybe more DC) does.  Clough had an academy to pick from, Warne doesn’t as it was largely decimated due to Mel.  Clough had the opposite problem to Warne of an oversize squad, Warne needs bodies.  Warne hasn’t had a full summer transfer window yet.
I agree about foundations but I do think circumstances play into that a bit and a lot of is required to lay the foundations.  In his pre-match press interview last week when discussing transfers he discussed Mark Thomas is planning transfer for next summer and the one after that.  Maybe that’s when we’ll see som gems unearthed.

Hate to say I told you so, but this league isn't the cake walk you lot made it out to be 12 months ago. 
All the tinpot sides raise their game when the 'big boys' are in town. You can't ever get an away ticket as allocation is always so low. The appeal of new grounds/teams also rubs off pretty quickly once you've failed to get up in that first season down there; which, if you fail to do, can result in you getting stranded for several years. Ask Pompy, Leeds, Sunderland, and us of course. 
I also couldn't get my head around why so many pundits thought you were going to walk it this year. You've an ageing squad, signed a bunch of over the hill players, and lost your best player/goalscorer to a L2 side. Who's replacing the goals that Didsy bought you last year? Waghorn was never that good even during his first stint. 
I think you'll do well to make the playoffs again to be honest. 
 

Well last night was a night for "firsts" for me. It was the first time I have heard the ref being booed back on to the pitch for the second half, and the first time I have walked out on a Derby game in 50 years. The nearest was when I left 5 minutes early back in 1998 when we were 4 - 1 down to Newcastle United. It was also a first in that although the ref was terrible, we were worse, by a looooooooooong way.
I didn't see the Bradley penalty foul, so maybe I'm turning into Arsene Wenger, I don't know. And wasn't aware how bad the Colins foul was as it was at the other end of the pitch. I just assumed it was like all the other yellow cards we got, which were for nothing - Smith's was after winning a clean tackle on the ball, for instance. By contrast Harris should have been carded for a blatant dive in the area just before Collins got booked, he ran across the goal line taunting the South Standers after he'd scored, which I thought was inciting the crowd, and then nearly took Cashin's head off while throwing him to the ground, which should have been another yellow. There was also a "both feet off the ground lunge near the corner flag which didn't even warrant a free-kick. So yes, the ref was bad. Partly my fault - I observed that he had been OK for the first 15 minutes, so sorry for being Mr Gobby!
So actually, match official wise, nothing new. But our performance - good grief! We had a good spell early in the second half for about 7 minutes, but that was it. Typified by Hourihane. Many of us have noticed he saunters around for much of the match in a half-arsed manner, and despite a reputation for skill, is more often than not a hoof-baller. NML is disappointing - the only time Collins was where a number 9 should be with a cross impending, and NML crosses behind him. I suppose it was better than simply whacking it out for  throw on the opposite side of the pitch, I suppose. And the defence! We were led to believe that we had brought players in to make our defence look like it is made of granite, but in reality it is made of shale, which means there is always the chance of a landslide. Oh dear. 
And once again we saw the opposition adapting on the fly. As soon as Thompson came on and settled at right back, they started raining long balls into his area of the pitch, exploiting his lack of height. IT was instantaneous, almost as if the opposition management knew what they were doing.
Our apathetic midfield is down to Warne's insistence on 3 at the back, plus pushing our midfield forwards in an attempt to be on the front foot. But that puts them too far forwards for us to play through the middle, so our defenders have to resort to pinging the ball wide to the wing backs, which is Warne's preferred, and sole tactic. So despite having good players in the middle, they are being by-passed, to our detriment.
Wilson made an impact, and looks like he wants to play football, as did Thommo, he did more in his first 10 minutes the most of the team managed all match. Unlike many on here, I rate him, because he ahs good ball control, he doesn't waste the ball, has energy and commitment, and always looks to move the ball forwards wherever possible. He should start on Saturday, and given Bird's injury, he should be in central midfield, but knowing "the Derby Way", he'll probably be in goal to teach Wildsmith a lesson!
Another first was me going to a midweek match was me not having to worry about getting home late and compromising my sleep before going to work the next day. And then I left early! But do I want to turn up on Saturday and watch us get beached by Fleetwood? Common sense would say "No", but what has common sense got to do with it?

Not the worst side for the division we are in
We have a goalkeeper thats good for this division. Allegedly the best young CB in the division. An ex prem midfielder & young future prem midfielder according to our ex-manager
We arnt too bad out wide with NML 
We lack a CF but Waggy should get goals in this division
We lack depth. But in terms of our best 11 all playing in their proper position then we should be able to beat anyone in this division 
The problem is the coaching, tactics & management 

Oh my lord, I need to stop looking at this forum. Faith in humanity diminishes with each overly dramatic thread 

I wish fans would accept that Derby cannot "splurge" the cash anymore. It's only just over 12 months ago that we were on the verge of total oblivion - no ground; no players; no club - nothing whatsoever.
We've been to the edge of the abyss, looked in and we don't ever want to go there again.
I do not want to see an owner "splash" the cash and offer us dreams, then run out of money and see it all collapse.
If we have to buy players who are, by other club or division standards, "cheap" or loans, so be it, until the club is back on firm footing, without any embargos or EFL restricted business plans, when, perhaps one day, we can go back to trading players in the normal way.
David Clowes has a plan which he set out in his interview a few months ago, in which he hoped that Derby would be back, and competing, in the Championship within 5 years and if Derby have to remain in Division 1 for another season, I will accept that because I love my football watching my home town club Derby County FC.
Let's not get over excited about who may or may not be transferred, in or out of the club, in the next few weeks, because there is still 27 days to go before the transfer window closes on the 1st September.
Let the games begin - COYR's

I think those days are well and truly behind us, even GSE propped up the club with £millions every season to keep us afloat.  We only started challenging regularly at the top of the Championship when MM decided to risk our very existence.
I know money doesn't guarantee success, but it is a good indicator of who will usually be competing at the top and the bottom of a division.  Assuming the fans keep turning up in numbers we'll always be a big team in Lg1 and once the final EFL restrictions have been lifted, we'll hopefully put that to good use.  Whether its this season or not, without trying to sound too arrogant it will only be a matter of time before we return to the Championship. 
Given our new sustainable philosophy, lets enjoy being a big fish in a small pond whilst it lasts and not have a meltdown over every result as we continue to find our way back after near bankruptcy - whilst a lot can obviously change, competing in the Championship under sustainable ownership imho won't see us flirt with the playoffs on a regular basis, the next few seasons might be the best we have for a while.

I wish fans would accept that Derby cannot "splurge" the cash anymore. It's only just over 12 months ago that we were on the verge of total oblivion - no ground; no players; no club - nothing whatsoever.
We've been to the edge of the abyss, looked in and we don't ever want to go there again.
I do not want to see an owner "splash" the cash and offer us dreams, then run out of money and see it all collapse.
If we have to buy players who are, by other club or division standards, "cheap" or loans, so be it, until the club is back on firm footing, without any embargos or EFL restricted business plans, when, perhaps one day, we can go back to trading players in the normal way.
David Clowes has a plan which he set out in his interview a few months ago, in which he hoped that Derby would be back, and competing, in the Championship within 5 years and if Derby have to remain in Division 1 for another season, I will accept that because I love my football watching my home town club Derby County FC.
Let's not get over excited about who may or may not be transferred, in or out of the club, in the next few weeks, because there is still 27 days to go before the transfer window closes on the 1st September.
Let the games begin - COYR's

I wish fans would accept that Derby cannot "splurge" the cash anymore. It's only just over 12 months ago that we were on the verge of total oblivion - no ground; no players; no club - nothing whatsoever.
We've been to the edge of the abyss, looked in and we don't ever want to go there again.
I do not want to see an owner "splash" the cash and offer us dreams, then run out of money and see it all collapse.
If we have to buy players who are, by other club or division standards, "cheap" or loans, so be it, until the club is back on firm footing, without any embargos or EFL restricted business plans, when, perhaps one day, we can go back to trading players in the normal way.
David Clowes has a plan which he set out in his interview a few months ago, in which he hoped that Derby would be back, and competing, in the Championship within 5 years and if Derby have to remain in Division 1 for another season, I will accept that because I love my football watching my home town club Derby County FC.
Let's not get over excited about who may or may not be transferred, in or out of the club, in the next few weeks, because there is still 27 days to go before the transfer window closes on the 1st September.
Let the games begin - COYR's

I wish fans would accept that Derby cannot "splurge" the cash anymore. It's only just over 12 months ago that we were on the verge of total oblivion - no ground; no players; no club - nothing whatsoever.
We've been to the edge of the abyss, looked in and we don't ever want to go there again.
I do not want to see an owner "splash" the cash and offer us dreams, then run out of money and see it all collapse.
If we have to buy players who are, by other club or division standards, "cheap" or loans, so be it, until the club is back on firm footing, without any embargos or EFL restricted business plans, when, perhaps one day, we can go back to trading players in the normal way.
David Clowes has a plan which he set out in his interview a few months ago, in which he hoped that Derby would be back, and competing, in the Championship within 5 years and if Derby have to remain in Division 1 for another season, I will accept that because I love my football watching my home town club Derby County FC.
Let's not get over excited about who may or may not be transferred, in or out of the club, in the next few weeks, because there is still 27 days to go before the transfer window closes on the 1st September.
Let the games begin - COYR's

With her for company!😅

'Slight' being the operative word. If we see a plan, and we see progress, we should get behind it and enjoy the ride.
If David Clowes and his executive staff say we can't afford a player, that's that. Anyone who needs that explaining after the last few years needs to be placed in a long term residential institution, and sat by the sunny window.

You can't buy cheap and sell high if you only deal in 31 year old free transfers

We’re in league 1, this is the mend and make do league, we need to learn how to buy cheap sell high. 
 
The reality is players we would’ve picked up relatively easily in the championship are now off the menu. We’ll have first pick of those at our level and decent loan opportunities. 
 
yes it would’ve been incredible to start with a full set of good strikers but it’s not that realistic, if we get a youngster in and any one of smith / Rhodes / waggy we would’ve done very well.