Alty_Ram Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 7 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: To be fair we don’t know we are being held to ransom do we? Random posters coming up with random figures. No, true, hence me emphasising the fact that none of us know either our budget, our offer, nor Cardiff's demands, but if ultimately they value him significantly higher than Derby does then we can't and shouldn't just pay that because they want it, it has to fit in with what we are trying to do elsewhere and with the other roles that we need to reinforce. Sheff Wed and the striker saga last year was very annoying and lost us a lot of time to sort something. If there is a significant and unresolvable value gap then reluctantly we'll maybe need to go elsewhere. If it is final wangling over 250k vs 350k then obviously fine, crack on. Just saying that there is a point to walk away, however much we like the player himself. DC and PW will clearly be better placed to make that call than me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 3 hours ago, Turk Thrust said: Agree we should sign him, yes he’s an international but for The Gambia, a tiny country who are 132nd in FIFAs world ranking. I reckon I could get in their team, well, if it wasn’t for my age and my three knee replacements. Oh and my bad back…. You have 3 knees? WOW!!! Rammysees, samtheram83, DE56Ram and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 minute ago, Wolfie20 said: You have 3 knees? WOW!!! Maybe he is Gambian after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 3 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: You have 3 knees? WOW!!! It helps if you injure one, you still have two...............Silly Mostyn6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimmu Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Do you remember your first partner, who you were too good to? Yeah, me neither. But that kind of thinking might be needed in the future. Those who say he is exactly what we need are partly correct. We needed him as Bird's, Smith's, Hourihane's, and Thompson's limitations had to be covered. Another one or two Osborn-like all-round midfielders and the need has disappeared, at least on the pitch if not yet in the minds of the fans. Grimbeard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Hennessy Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 35 minutes ago, Dimmu said: Do you remember your first partner, who you were too good to? Yeah, me neither. But that kind of thinking might be needed in the future. Those who say he is exactly what we need are partly correct. We needed him as Bird's, Smith's, Hourihane's, and Thompson's limitations had to be covered. Another one or two Osborn-like all-round midfielders and the need has disappeared, at least on the pitch if not yet in the minds of the fans. Thats actually a really good point...and one that I too had pondered. Not to say Ebou isn't a good player...because he was a massive reason we were promoted...but its true that his qualities were lacking in the players you mention... Dimmu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 has he signed yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk Thrust Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 1 hour ago, Wolfie20 said: You have 3 knees? WOW!!! Jake the Peg has nothing on me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hans Datdo-Dishes Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 19 minutes ago, Turk Thrust said: Jake the Peg has nothing on me 'Diddle-iddle-iddle-um'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmberRamber Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Cardiff's manager joined then before the start of last season. Adams played very very few games for him last season before we took him. Even though he was a revelation for our great club last year I'd be rather surprised if all of a sudden he will be straight into a starting line up at Cardiff. No doubt he will be the model professional and not be of any bother whilst in Wales They can get a fee and realise some wage space to get in someone who their club believe is more in line with what is Cardiff's philosophy at this time. All the talk of fees appears to be guess work at best. Yes I imagine his loan spell will have given him marketable value when selling to the rams ......however I don't hear of any further clubs tangling with us to get his signature. That could be due to one of , or several things .....either the deal is done that he comes to pride park and is just in need of details being cleared up. - He is staying put at Cardiff. (Which smacks of being unlikely) - He has a ceiling of talent that most championship clubs feel he has reached at the top end of league one. His attitude from what little we know looks to be absolutely spot on. Plays with a smile on his face and really gets stuck in like centre midfielders of old. He is well worth a punt and he must be feeling really good with his contribution to a promotion so should be full of confidence when the season kicks off And let's get one thing right here.......our club......our rams are not here to make up numbers in this league for years to come. We have the stadium and fan base to be an asset to the premier league. Look at the support in league one for 2 seasons. Give us a competitive side in the championship and every stadium we travel to will sell out. Same when we land back in the premier league. If Leicester, Bournemouth, wolves and that pub side down the Trent can play in the top flight.......we certainly can. The next windows we get involved in are going to be very interesting . Let's not throw silly money about and make hasty signings. Due diligence on not only the talent but also the application and the desire to be a team player look to be top of the selection process which is hugely important and should be applauded I am a Derbyshire bloke from birth and a derby county fan for over 40 years now and after everything I've seen over that period my love for this club is as strong as the time when I was a little primary school boy going the match at the weekends with my Dad. I hope you all feel the same and never lose the fire for our club. Back the chairman board managers and players. COME ON YOU RAMS! hintonsboots, Wignall12, richgee1976 and 20 others 6 5 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 One of the best list of bullet points I’ve ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazloW Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 4 hours ago, Wolfie20 said: You have 3 knees? WOW!!! Apropos of nothing, for some reason the man who used to sit next to me always called Paul Boertin ‘9 knees’… not sure why. Anyway, pardon me for pointless and not very interesting interlude… carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derby65 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 hours ago, AmberRamber said: Cardiff's manager joined then before the start of last season. Adams played very very few games for him last season before we took him. Even though he was a revelation for our great club last year I'd be rather surprised if all of a sudden he will be straight into a starting line up at Cardiff. No doubt he will be the model professional and not be of any bother whilst in Wales They can get a fee and realise some wage space to get in someone who their club believe is more in line with what is Cardiff's philosophy at this time. All the talk of fees appears to be guess work at best. Yes I imagine his loan spell will have given him marketable value when selling to the rams ......however I don't hear of any further clubs tangling with us to get his signature. That could be due to one of , or several things .....either the deal is done that he comes to pride park and is just in need of details being cleared up. - He is staying put at Cardiff. (Which smacks of being unlikely) - He has a ceiling of talent that most championship clubs feel he has reached at the top end of league one. His attitude from what little we know looks to be absolutely spot on. Plays with a smile on his face and really gets stuck in like centre midfielders of old. He is well worth a punt and he must be feeling really good with his contribution to a promotion so should be full of confidence when the season kicks off And let's get one thing right here.......our club......our rams are not here to make up numbers in this league for years to come. We have the stadium and fan base to be an asset to the premier league. Look at the support in league one for 2 seasons. Give us a competitive side in the championship and every stadium we travel to will sell out. Same when we land back in the premier league. If Leicester, Bournemouth, wolves and that pub side down the Trent can play in the top flight.......we certainly can. The next windows we get involved in are going to be very interesting . Let's not throw silly money about and make hasty signings. Due diligence on not only the talent but also the application and the desire to be a team player look to be top of the selection process which is hugely important and should be applauded I am a Derbyshire bloke from birth and a derby county fan for over 40 years now and after everything I've seen over that period my love for this club is as strong as the time when I was a little primary school boy going the match at the weekends with my Dad. I hope you all feel the same and never lose the fire for our club. Back the chairman board managers and players. COME ON YOU RAMS! Absolutely spot on with this post .One of the best I’ve seen , well done sir once a ram always a ram AmberRamber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 If we can't sign him up for any reason, I hope TF we can at least book him as DJ for our next promotion party on the Balcony! #Pump it up 🎵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 8 hours ago, ollycutts1982 said: ... We certainly shouldn't be held to ransom by Cardiff, if they are playing hard ball over the fee move on to other targets. This is Cardiff remember. They're more likely to be playing snowball! 👀 🥶 ☃️ RadioactiveWaste and ollycutts1982 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Dom Dietrich just said regarding Adams “we understand from the Cardiff side their asking price is currently more than Derby want to pay”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 Sounds like a dead duck then. Moving onto other targets per Radio Derby and Clowes Caerphilly Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 4 minutes ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said: Sounds like a dead duck then. Moving onto other targets per Radio Derby and Clowes Clowes spoke sensibly on it didn’t he? We want him but won’t pay over the odds and will look at other players if needed. Ram-Alf and jono 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 2 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: Clowes spoke sensibly on it didn’t he? We want him but won’t pay over the odds and will look at other players if needed. A very good league 1 player but mentioned before he would need a couple of technical midfielders round him to utilise him well at this level a bit like Daryl Powell, as ball retention and technical ability aren't his game. 500K with a small add on for retaining our league position,or games played is probably a reasonable fee. Colour-blind and Caerphilly Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramit Posted July 1 Share Posted July 1 If he is too expensive, forget about it, if he wants too high wages, forget about it, if he comes at a reasonable price and misses the good times at Derby County enough to ask affordable wages, good on him and welcome back. Bottom line, he's not irreplaceable. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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