JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: What is our wage budget out of interest? https://www.capology.com/club/derby-county/salaries/ I already know the response will be that these numbers are probably wrong, but they are likely in the right ballpark and are well sourced. If you look up the other clubs we are spending significantly more. Edited October 7, 2023 by JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: Lol. This is their level? That you Paul? The back four and keeper are easily Championship standard. The midfield too. We're a bit iffy up front in the striker department. But this squad has the ability to play well in the Championship, but most of them won't be there with Warne that is true. A squad with ‘the ability to play well in the Championship’ would not be this inconsistent and frustrating in League 1. Players with ‘the ability to play well in the Championship’ would not have given a League One club a second glance. If this group of players are genuinely above this level, surely they would put it all together more often, even in spite of the manager? If we have players above this level, which the evidence suggests is not the case, then they are doing a fairly poor job of showing it and that can’t all be down to the manager. Mick Brolly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Expectations are worryingly low when we are trying to justify why it's not a disgrace not to beat Cheltenham let alone Cheltenham in their current malaise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 This forum is turning into a totally joyless place. Thought that with our near extinction there would be now some vestige of positivity, new owner, new manager, new start. Sadly not. Marriot Ram99, AbuDerbyDave, maxjam and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jourdan said: A squad with ‘the ability to play well in the Championship’ would not be this inconsistent and frustrating in League 1. Players with ‘the ability to play well in the Championship’ would not have given a League One club a second glance. If this group of players are genuinely above this level, surely they would put it all together more often, even in spite of the manager? If we have players above this level, which the evidence suggests is not the case, then they are doing a fairly poor job of showing it and that can’t all be down to the manager. And yet there are enough examples of a good manager getting better results out of a squad players than the previous manager, are there not? Edited October 7, 2023 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, S8TY said: Regardless of how we played we should be beating Cheltenham in there current form …not good enough Yes a very poor outcome for Derby County under any circumstances. In his post match interview Warne indicated that he wasn't unhappy with the performance, but also said that the game is about scoring goals. Pre match, I was convinced that there would be more than enough in the squad to be beating bottom of L1 Cheltenham. I am beginning to wonder if the players have the motivation to win games like this. The manager needs to get the players focused on delivering the results that are required to ensure the minimum of a top 6 position in this league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 4 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: This forum is turning into a totally joyless place. Thought that with our near extinction there would be now some vestige of positivity, new owner, new manager, new start. Sadly not. Warne has been here a year. In management terms that is very much not 'new' and that is not something that can seriously be used in his defense in my opinion. LeedsCityRam, RoyMac5 and BPV 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Warne has been here a year. In management terms that is very much not 'new' and that is not something that can seriously be used in his defense in my opinion. Interesting that you mentioned Warne in your reply. I was commenting on how joyless this forum has become. Think your answer sums that up. BPV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chellaston Ram Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 The hallmark of a good coach/manager is to improve his players , I don’t think Warne is doing this . Many of them are worse than when they came Adslegend, NOTSA74 and LeedsCityRam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said: Interesting that you mentioned Warne in your reply. I was commenting on how joyless this forum has become. Think your answer sums that up. The forum mood typically reflects what is happening on the pitch. Joyless football leads to joyless fans. DavesaRam, Walkley Ram, May Contain Nuts and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Interesting that you mentioned Warne in your reply. I was commenting on how joyless this forum has become. Think your answer sums that up. Your comment leading to that reply specifically mentioned “new manager” so why would you be surprised if the reply mentions Warne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: The forum mood typically reflects what is happening on the pitch. Joyless football leads to joyless fans. Good point - when was the last time that there was a good atmosphere by our fans at our play at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 13 minutes ago, Jourdan said: A squad with ‘the ability to play well in the Championship’ would not be this inconsistent and frustrating in League 1. Players with ‘the ability to play well in the Championship’ would not have given a League One club a second glance. If this group of players are genuinely above this level, surely they would put it all together more often, even in spite of the manager? If we have players above this level, which the evidence suggests is not the case, then they are doing a fairly poor job of showing it and that can’t all be down to the manager. Hourihane stated at the Fan Forum something along the lines of "adapt to what the manager wants or you're put of thr team". It's reasonably possible that the players are too scared to actually pass to each other to retain the ball for extended periods of play. They may not want to risk being dropped for not getting the ball forward quick enough. BramcoteRam84 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkley Ram Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 5 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: The forum mood typically reflects what is happening on the pitch. Joyless football leads to joyless fans. Speak for yourself. I love drawing with bottom of the table while we're supposed to be challengers. God you're so doom and gloom. Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: The forum mood typically reflects what is happening on the pitch. Joyless football leads to joyless fans. No the whole forum is a cliche now. I could safely predict the replies tonight together with the other members who gave likes to those responses. From someone whom has suffered with depression all of their lifes mood is what you make of it, if you choose to accentuate the negatives in everything then of course you will be joyless. But you have determined this outcome. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 12 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: This forum is turning into a totally joyless place. Thought that with our near extinction there would be now some vestige of positivity, new owner, new manager, new start. Sadly not. And this is the fallback position, Will there be a time when our "near extinction" will not be used as a hammer to slam down on those who are not happy with PW or the performances the players are putting in. It's the only vestige some posters can come out with 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 Just now, Tyler Durden said: No the whole forum is a cliche now. I could safely predict the replies tonight together with the other members who gave likes to those responses. From someone whom has suffered with depression all of their lifes mood is what you make of it, if you choose to accentuate the negatives in everything then of course you will be joyless. But you have determined this outcome. Sorry, but the fact that the commentary in here is mostly negative is not because everyone collectively decided to be negative, it's because what we are seeing on the pitch is rubbish and it's being called out as such. I was really hopeful that the Blackpool game was a turning point, but here we are again. Ghost of Clough, LeedsCityRam, Miggins and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 3 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: No the whole forum is a cliche now. I could safely predict the replies tonight together with the other members who gave likes to those responses. From someone whom has suffered with depression all of their lifes mood is what you make of it, if you choose to accentuate the negatives in everything then of course you will be joyless. But you have determined this outcome. On the one hand isn’t the forum something of a microcosm of wider “society” (albeit in a niche way, since we share one specific concern/interest which most others do not)? On the other, by the logic in your message, if you are stating that the forum is joyless, then isn’t it that you’re failing to find the joy in the forum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 It's also comforting to know that when you share that you have suffered with depression all of your life this is greeted with a laughing emoji reaction. Nishfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbuDerbyDave Posted October 7, 2023 Share Posted October 7, 2023 24 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: And yet there are enough examples of a good manager getting better results out of a squad players than the previous manager, are there not? Not at Derby there isn’t Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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