sage Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Taylor Wisdom Addison Carbon Lowe Hughes P.Williams Hendrick Barnes Ramage Sturridge Any others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 TomTom zoulu mokouko CornwallRam, InstaRam, I have nothing to say and 3 others 2 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 15 minutes ago, rammieib said: TomTom zoulu mokouko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RamLad1884 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Would replace Wisdom with Bogle, given we bought Wisdom and turned him in a flop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: Would replace Wisdom with Bogle, given we bought Wisdom and turned him in a flop. Bogle's done well since he left. He was playing really well before his big injury. Edited July 21, 2023 by DarkFruitsRam7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 If you said 'all of them' it wouldn't have been far off - we've had a problem with taking top academy prospects and getting them ready for senior football for whatever reason. We definitely don't seem to have a problem with getting in potential prospects and nurturing them through the academy but it's just the final important bump that seems to impact us. A lot of clubs will be in a similar boat, but we don't seem to have many success stories either. Jeff Hendrick collected the biggest fee and that was off the back of a purple patch for Ireland in a tournament. I actually think it had little to do with his form with ourselves which was pretty poor in that season before he left. Huddlestone is the only one who actually went on to play at a high level. Barnes and Hughes have been the most impressive technically. Sibley still the best I've seen for Derby at academy level, but sadly getting to the point where that's unrecognisable at a senior level. We'll have to see how Kaide Gordon, Liam Delap, Dylan Williams and Omari Kellyman get on in the coming years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Steve Elliott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FKANorwichExile Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Matty Carbon... That's a blast from the past. So much hope! Could rotate in Lewin Nyatanga, James Bailey and big Pablo Mills too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, sage said: Taylor Wisdom Addison Carbon Lowe Hughes P.Williams Hendrick Barnes Ramage Sturridge Any others? Nyatanga, Holmes & Bennett spring to mind as highly touted youth internationals that didn't come to much. RadioactiveWaste and Raich Carter 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 7 minutes ago, Ambitious said: We'll have to see how Kaide Gordon, Liam Delap, Dylan Williams and Omari Kellyman get on in the coming years. From memory, weren't all of these U18 prospects that got prematurely bumped up the pecking order (and sold) due to our situation? Bit harder to judge us for that final stage of youth development if that's the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBB Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Gary twigg Paris simmonds Lionel ainsworth Callum ball RadioactiveWaste and MackworthRamIsGod 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambitious Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Just now, DarkFruitsRam7 said: From memory, weren't all of these U18 prospects that got prematurely bumped up the pecking order (and sold) due to our situation? Bit harder to judge us for that final stage of youth development if that's the case. That's my point - they will get the benefit of further development elsewhere so we get to see how these 'top prospects' develop. All four were very highly rated at a young age, Kaide Gordon in particular. Kellyman is getting a lot of plaudits at Villa at the moment, he's seen as their top prospect coming through. DarkFruitsRam7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiteroseram Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Not the same level of expectation, but Miles Addison deserves a mention. Wasn't expecting him to reach the levels of a lot of these, but thought he'd kick on of not for injuries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardmm Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 minute ago, whiteroseram said: Not the same level of expectation, but Miles Addison deserves a mention. Wasn't expecting him to reach the levels of a lot of these, but thought he'd kick on of not for injuries Game against Man U and I thought he’d play for England whiteroseram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 Dean Holdsworth. Well, he's a youngster compared to me........ ....and Sage.....🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted July 21, 2023 Author Share Posted July 21, 2023 5 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Dean Holdsworth. Well, he's a youngster compared to me........ ....and Sage.....🤣 Actually Ralph, he is older than me and younger than you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuitYourJibbaJivin Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 8 minutes ago, whiteroseram said: Not the same level of expectation, but Miles Addison deserves a mention. Wasn't expecting him to reach the levels of a lot of these, but thought he'd kick on of not for injuries I knew he wouldn’t make it when I saw him buying a bottle of “chekov” vodka from Mr booze 😂 JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta, whiteroseram and i-Ram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 39 minutes ago, QuitYourJibbaJivin said: I knew he wouldn’t make it when I saw him buying a bottle of “chekov” vodka from Mr booze 😂 Doesn't surprise me. He's now Wayne Linker's bezzie mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 1 hour ago, sage said: Taylor Wisdom Addison Carbon Lowe Hughes P.Williams Hendrick Barnes Ramage Sturridge Any others? Think a few of them have done ok. Depends on expectation level. Taylor did as well as I thought he would. Hughes, Hendrick, Williams and Sturridge all had mostly top flight careers. Barnes -and Hughes- had their level reduced by injury. Lowe was underused as was Ramage in the Cox 92 revolution of talent hoovering that didn't work. Ramage was probably a shoe in for a step backup at Watford as he scored a lot of goals as a 10 before injury finished that opportunity. Wisdom was captain of England U21's had been in the Liverpool first team fairly often and had just signed a 4 year contract when we had him on loan. A different beast with 2 loans that had failed and a season asleep in Austria coming back His recent interview didn't really inspire as a can do guy who meets being dropped head on either. Carbon was never going to be good enough to dislodge what we had at the time on a regular basis. If he'd been around and waited for Bragstaad and Prior he may have had a better chance. LazloW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 57 minutes ago, whiteroseram said: Not the same level of expectation, but Miles Addison deserves a mention. Wasn't expecting him to reach the levels of a lot of these, but thought he'd kick on of not for injuries That's what happens when your manager plays you with a broken foot for 98 minutes to prove a point. whiteroseram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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