TomTom92 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 If we can get Waghorn in for so cheap that he doesn’t eat in to the budget and we can still sign 3 other players then I’m all for it. But if he’s our 3rd and final striker or the final winger/supporting attacker that Warne wants then it’s a no from me. He’s the cherry on top of the cake but certainly not the icing or sponge. OoooMarkWright 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, TomTom92 said: If we can get Waghorn in for so cheap that he doesn’t eat in to the budget and we can still sign 3 other players then I’m all for it. But if he’s our 3rd and final striker or the final winger/supporting attacker that Warne wants then it’s a no from me. He’s the cherry on top of the cake but certainly not the icing or sponge. How can it be a no from you without knowing what the other options are? Good strikers are notoriously difficult to get, especially in league one with no real ability to pay a fee. Personally I'm just trusting Warne will choose the best options available to him, if it happens to be Waghorn then so be it. DCFC1388, norwichram, Archied and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 12 minutes ago, Andicis said: He could be one of the best players available on a free in league one. Why is it an issue he's an ex player? Even from an objective stand point it makes sense. Andicis, Scott129, Animal is a Ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 1 minute ago, dcfcreece1601 said: Agreed, imagine saying we wouldn't take back ebosele or plange in league 1 purely based on him being an ex player , pure stupidity I wouldn't take either as one signed for someone else under the pretence of a city break with his missus and the other couldn't get game time or goals when he did, on loan at Lincoln. The ex player bit doesn't bother me as long as they can do something and aren't a bullshitter on previous ventures in a Rams shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuwtfly Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I really like Waghorn, liked him during his time here a lot, think he seems like a really nice bloke, too But if this is what we’ve come to after a summer of trying to bring in a forward then we must be desperate The Scarlet Pimpernel, OoooMarkWright, angieram and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: If we can get Waghorn in for so cheap that he doesn’t eat in to the budget and we can still sign 3 other players then I’m all for it. But if he’s our 3rd and final striker or the final winger/supporting attacker that Warne wants then it’s a no from me. He’s the cherry on top of the cake but certainly not the icing or sponge. I do feel it would be a player very similar to one just brought in from Rotherham and makes no sense when you need options. Unless we're already replacing him and his minor knee problem which isn't looking so minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 13 minutes ago, Andicis said: How can it be a no from you without knowing what the other options are? Good strikers are notoriously difficult to get, especially in league one with no real ability to pay a fee. Personally I'm just trusting Warne will choose the best options available to him, if it happens to be Waghorn then so be it. Because Waghorn wouldn’t have been our best option at the start of the summer. No excuses for not landing a decent striker in my opinion. If you’d have said a week after the Wednesday game our front 3 for next season will be Collins, Washington and Waghorn I’d imagine there’d have been a lot of sick fans about. We shouldn’t accept mediocre just because ‘that’s life’. Papahet 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papahet Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 19 minutes ago, Andicis said: He could be one of the best players available on a free in league one. Why is it an issue he's an ex player? Even from an objective stand point it makes sense. It really doesn't make sense. He's 33, was pretty average (at best) last time, constantly injured and has done little to nothing in recent years to show he's the answer.. again. "Loving the club" and knowing the club are not footballing attributes. Ditto Chris Martin, Bryson.. DiggerB and Srg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: Because Waghorn wouldn’t have been our best option at the start of the summer. No excuses for not landing a decent striker in my opinion. If you’d have said a week after the Wednesday game our front 3 for next season will be Collins, Washington and Waghorn I’d imagine there’d have been a lot of sick fans about. We shouldn’t accept mediocre just because ‘that’s life’. It's not about accepting mediocrity, it's about being realistic. Good strikers cost money. Money that we don't really have available to spend at the moment. We've strengthened the squad as much as we can, but we have to make do really. It's impossible to comment on what our best option was at the start of the summer really, but we're still a club in recovery. It is what it is. Edited July 26, 2023 by Andicis nogbad van 50, Carnero, Caerphilly Ram and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 2 minutes ago, Papahet said: It really doesn't make sense. He's 33, was pretty average (at best) last time, constantly injured and has done little to nothing in recent years to show he's the answer.. again. "Loving the club" and knowing the club are not footballing attributes. Ditto Chris Martin, Bryson.. We need a striker. We don't have money to spend. Getting an experienced player who won't be very expensive in wages is a sensible move. We aren't going to be signing top players. It makes sense, you just don't like it. jono and Premier ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 We not only need to find a foward who fits into Warne's style of play, but someone we can afford and is a good teams player. Waggy ticks those boxes for me. Great lad who would love to put on a rams shirt, will press and work hard for the team. jono and Andicis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggerB Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 I’m so conflicted I’ve loved posts for and against Waggy coming back 😂! jono, May Contain Nuts, whiteroseram and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoooMarkWright Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Andicis said: How can it be a no from you without knowing what the other options are? Good strikers are notoriously difficult to get, especially in league one with no real ability to pay a fee. Personally I'm just trusting Warne will choose the best options available to him, if it happens to be Waghorn then so be it. And yet we signed Collins and McGoldrick last summer with alot less prep than this summer. A forward has been a priority all summer, with or without McGoldrick. It’s not great that we still haven’t bought one in and now appear to be scraping the barrel. Our season kind of depends on it. No pressure! Edited July 26, 2023 by enachops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, enachops said: And yet we signed Collins and McGoldrick last summer with alot less prep than this summer. A forward has been a priority all summer, with or without McGokdrick. It’s not great that we still haven’t bought one in and now appear to be scraping the barrel. Our season kind of depends on it. No pressure! And McGoldrick was brilliant and Collins was a decent signing too. The thing is that we are just depending on being able to sign an unproven raw striker for a small fee or hoping someone decent becomes available on a free. We don't really have the luxury of much choice. I'm sure Warne would love to sign a good striker to fire us up the league but we are very limited in what we can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 IMHO Collins, Washington and potentially Waghorn are all capable of scoring 15 goals in league one this season with good service. Assuming Waghorn signs, I hope we're still in the market for a good AMC and WB, with the signings we've already made we should be producing a lot of chances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 14 minutes ago, Andicis said: It's not about accepting mediocrity, it's about being realistic. Good strikers cost money. Money that we don't really have available to spend at the moment. We've strengthened the squad as much as we can, but we have to make do really. It's impossible to comment on what our best option was at the start of the summer really, but we're still a club in recovery. It is what it is. Would’ve preferred Sam Smith or Knibbs over Waghorn and I doubt they was asking the world. Have to respectfully disagree with your laid back attitude towards this season. Last season was the free hit IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Just now, TomTom92 said: Would’ve preferred Sam Smith or Knibbs over Waghorn and I doubt they was asking the world. Have to respectfully disagree with your laid back attitude towards this season. Last season was the free hit IMO. To be fair, neither of us have any idea what Reading offered in wages. Knibbs is a winger not a striker, and I can't believe we wouldn't have tried for Smith if he was a viable option. I would guess that Reading offered more than we were willing/able to pay, but like I said I have no idea what they offered. I'm not saying this season is a free hit. We have a good team capable of getting up. The fact is we're still under increased EFL scrutiny and a business plan (albeit a more relaxed one). It's just realism. Caerphilly Ram and jono 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 Would rather play Dejaune Brown than Martyn Waghorn if that’s where we’re at on the list of possible signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Andicis said: To be fair, neither of us have any idea what Reading offered in wages. Knibbs is a winger not a striker, and I can't believe we wouldn't have tried for Smith if he was a viable option. I would guess that Reading offered more than we were willing/able to pay, but like I said I have no idea what they offered. I'm not saying this season is a free hit. We have a good team capable of getting up. The fact is we're still under increased EFL scrutiny and a business plan (albeit a more relaxed one). It's just realism. Looks like Knibbs and smith ain’t getting paid, so not sure they made a good choice there. Edited July 26, 2023 by Ramarena Andicis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted July 26, 2023 Share Posted July 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Srg said: Would rather play Dejaune Brown than Martyn Waghorn if that’s where we’re at on the list of possible signings. If Brown is capable of having a breakthrough season then Waghorn might actually be a good, cheap option to have as support for him. YouRams, jono, Will Hughes Hair and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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