BobdeBilder Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 13/03/2023 at 22:14, Brammie Steve said: John McGovern was great at coming up with the goods when it counted. (25 yarder with a leather ball the weight of a medicine ball, Winner in last game of 71-72 season.) usually but with occasional howlers (back pass vs Arsenal in 2nd FA cup replay) I too saw John McG. I've enjoyed Sibley's growing pains into an exciting prospect too! I have still never forgiven McGovern for that bloody back pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brammie Steve Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 1 hour ago, BobdeBilder said: I have still never forgiven McGovern for that bloody back pass. Neither did Brian! Even at F*r**t he always said:- Just remember young man you cost me a cup final! BobdeBilder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 hours ago, Kokosnuss said: Depends on how long he used wingbacks for at Rotherham - was it something he adopted in his final season because those were the players available or was he predominantly playing with wingbacks throughout most of his tenure. Either way I'd suggest that by your 6th season in charge you know your budget and your preferred style well enough that they should align, it's plenty of time to get the type of players you want regardless of budget - especially after a few money-spinning seasons in a league above your natural level. After becoming manager in 2016, it wasnt until Feb 2019 that he first used 3/5 at the back. However, that was only twice in that season (drawing both) and due to an injury crisis to midfielders, with a CB playing DM in both. He didnt use 3/5 at the back again until November 2020. He used 4 at the back only twice more up until leaving Rotherham for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich84 Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 14 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: Is it? Or was it the system that worked at Rotherham with their resources? Not 100% certain, but I believe he said so in early interviews here, and didn't we start out with that system under him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OssieEnd Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 He's good. And I'm glad we've got him. Carl Sagan and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPRamFan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I think it could work, just that Didzy would need to not drop as deep as he has been. Hopefully we worked on it this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Thread should be re-labelled Sibley The Scapegoat / Sibley The Saviour on a rotational basis Once again hauled off when there were worse players / performances on the pitch and players coming on who offered less of a threat in a game where we needed something only he can produce to get us back in the game. Adslegend, Jimbo Ram, angieram and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zag zig Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 The excuse on radio Derby was that only him or Knight can play the behind the striker role; which really was a massive cop out today by Warne. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Let down by the 9 players behind him unfortunately. Hope that's not the last we see of him. No denying McGoldrick was a bit better in that role so it's a tough gig for Sibley to keep his spot. I'd bin off Collins and stick Sibley behind McGoldrick next week, just me though. JustOneBiblicalKazim, Steve How Hard?, Ramarena and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 25 minutes ago, Zag zig said: The excuse on radio Derby was that only him or Knight can play the behind the striker role; which really was a massive cop out today by Warne. I mean WTF!?! To make it worse he obviously sees Collins as 'the striker'. Getting wobbly now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 He needs a move away to a team ironically like fleetwood who’ll play him blind faith and put up with his stinkers because he scores goals. Hopefully with plenty of matches he’ll find consistency and get a move back up the ladder. Unfortunately he’s either been in a relegation battle or now a promotion hunt and his stinkers which really are poor can’t be tolerated. Our squad is missing a real Taraabt style talent that can single handedly win us matches. Sibley could be this man but I’m afraid the treatment of him by Cocu (towards the end) and Rooney had pushed him back 2 years. I’d try him again on Saturday behind didzy but if he fluffs his lines again it’s hard to defend him. May Contain Nuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, TomTom92 said: He needs a move away to a team ironically like fleetwood who’ll play him blind faith and put up with his stinkers because he scores goals. Hopefully with plenty of matches he’ll find consistency and get a move back up the ladder. Unfortunately he’s either been in a relegation battle or now a promotion hunt and his stinkers which really are poor can’t be tolerated. Our squad is missing a real Taraabt style talent that can single handedly win us matches. Sibley could be this man but I’m afraid the treatment of him by Cocu (towards the end) and Rooney had pushed him back 2 years. I’d try him again on Saturday behind didzy but if he fluffs his lines again it’s hard to defend him. What did he have to feed off in the first half? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Just now, RoyMac5 said: What did he have to feed off in the first half? Didn’t watch the match so can’t comment but it seems to be a pattern with him that he can’t have 3/4 matches in a row where he dominates. Not saying today was on him and maybe he was harshly subbed. But Warne is the 3rd manager now to have him. So if he doesn’t trust him to play there week in week out maybe there is an issue. Like I say if we were a mid table side then by all means play him blind faith and see what happens. But Warne hasn’t got that luxury. I’d try him again on sat but we need results by hook or by crook so he won’t get many cracks of the whip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Question has to be asked, how can you keep Collins on and take Sibley off? Carl Sagan, RoyMac5, JustOneBiblicalKazim and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Question has to be asked, how can you keep Collins on and take Sibley off? It's been asked. I'm still stunned by the Knight and Sibley comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: What did he have to feed off in the first half? Making yourself available helps He is a very limited player. He scores some goals but not enough to compensate for his poor general play. Until he learns how to look up when moving with the ball, he won't improve sunnyhill60 and NottsRam77 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: It's been asked. I'm still stunned by the Knight and Sibley comment. Knight’s not even a 10 anyway. Will get away with him there a little bit at this level but concerning that PW thinks he has the attributes to play that role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 minute ago, sage said: Making yourself available helps He is a very limited player. He scores some goals but not enough to compensate for his poor general play. Until he learns how to look up when moving with the ball, he won't improve And yet he's still sooo much better than Collins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: And yet he's still sooo much better than Collins. Faint praise indeed May Contain Nuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted March 18, 2023 Author Share Posted March 18, 2023 44 minutes ago, Ramarena said: Question has to be asked, how can you keep Collins on and take Sibley off? Because we were 2 down and we only have 2 CFs in the squad. Why take one off at HT even if he isn't the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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