World Cup Qatar

[TuffLuff]

On 05/12/2022 at 17:09, Bris Vegas said:

This was posted on the BBC regarding penalties at World Cups. Green scored, purple missed.

If you draw an imaginary horizontal line half way up the goal, you can see the ratio of scored to missed is higher when aiming high.

I’ve always wondered why players don’t aim high when taking penalties. Yeah you could hit it over or hit the bar, but they are pretty a guaranteed goal when you hit the target.

Compare that to low shots and look how many are saved.  

The data is surely flawed because most keepers expect penalties to go low and dive accordingly? 

The more penalties that get hit higher, the more keepers will gamble on that outcome which will mean more saves. It only works because it’s not an outcome that happens often with a penalty.

[TuffLuff]

One fantastic thing to come out of a World Cup is seeing emerging talents arrive on the centre stage, especially when we can no longer keep on top of European football/champs league like we once could.

Don’t think many will forget Gancelo Ramos’ after tonight

Edited December 6, 2022 by TuffLuff

[Bris Vegas]

59 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Portugal look better than I've seen them for years.... 

It’s not just that Ronaldo occupies a forward space and offers no pressing or defensive solidarity, his absence also allows others to assume more responsibility.

Portugal’s attacking players probably now feel they have more leeway in the final third rather than having the thought of always finding Ronaldo.

Leao is a serious talent. But in players like Bernardo Silva, Cancelo and Ruben Dias they have players who know what it is like to win regularly.

I wouldn’t put it past them reaching the final. They certainly have more about them than Spain to break down Morocco.

[ariotofmyown]

Which was funniest:

That penalty shoot out vs Spain when CR7 waited for the last one and didn't get chance to take it. Portugal were better than Spain in that game too but CR7 missed loads of chances (if I remember right).

Or...

The Euros that Portugal won, when they drew all 3 group games, then ended up with an easy path to the final. They were dire throughout, but only won because CR7 went off injured and suddenly they looked like a team.

Or...

CR7 being dropped tonight and Portugal looking like a brilliant team for the first time during his career. Love that he came on as sub and still didn't score. Missed the game, so assume he was desperate to score.

 

He was obviously a brilliant player for most of his time at Real. Juve basically bankrupted themselves and got much worse with him playing for them, even though he was supposed to win them the Champions League.

City tricked United into signing him and he has cost them a fortune and been pretty hopeless. Now has left in disgrace with his reputation ruined. Please sign for PSG Ronaldo!

[ariotofmyown]

2 hours ago, Alpha said:

Star player mate. They've gone mad on hyping them all. The only exception is England!

Imagine you are an ex-player pundit who doesn't actually know a great deal about football tactics or analysis, hence you didn't get into coaching or managing.

Would you try and describe the pattern of the game and what is happening beyond where the ball is? Or do you just keep going on and on about the star player, not realising it is a team sport?

Why is Messi thriving in this Argentina side when he was poor in so many others? Must be cos he is now a much better player at PSG then he ever was at Barca right?

No star player to talk about? Just go on and on about one very close decision that could have gone either way!

[Van der MoodHoover]

51 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said:

It’s not just that Ronaldo occupies a forward space and offers no pressing or defensive solidarity, his absence also allows others to assume more responsibility.

Portugal’s attacking players probably now feel they have more leeway in the final third rather than having the thought of always finding Ronaldo.

Leao is a serious talent. But in players like Bernardo Silva, Cancelo and Ruben Dias they have players who know what it is like to win regularly.

I wouldn’t put it past them reaching the final. They certainly have more about them than Spain to break down Morocco.

Yes, noticeable how some of the younger subs just defaulted to "have to find Ronaldo" even when there seemed to be better passing options. 

Either Portugal or a massed Morocco will be a very stern test even if England are able to beat France. 

[kevinhectoring]

5 hours ago, therealhantsram said:

Spain really flattered to deceive in that opening game didn't they? Since then they've absolute trash.

They have won only 3 WC games since 2010 

[kevinhectoring]

45 minutes ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Either Portugal or a massed Morocco will be a very stern test even if England are able to beat France. 

If we beat France we should beat anyone. Morocco likely to have injury concerns. But if we don’t win this WC would LOVE them to do it.  

Edited December 6, 2022 by kevinhectoring

[TigerTedd]

1 hour ago, Van der MoodHoover said:

Yes, noticeable how some of the younger subs just defaulted to "have to find Ronaldo" even when there seemed to be better passing options. 

Either Portugal or a massed Morocco will be a very stern test even if England are able to beat France. 

A bit of vengeance against Portugal on the way to the final would be quite welcome. 

[Gee SCREAMER !!]

26 minutes ago, TigerTedd said:

A bit of vengeance against Portugal on the way to the final would be quite welcome. 

[Rammy03]

Spot on.

[kevinhectoring]

10 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

Which was funniest:

That penalty shoot out vs Spain when CR7 waited for the last one and didn't get chance to take it. Portugal were better than Spain in that game too but CR7 missed loads of chances (if I remember right).

Or...

The Euros that Portugal won, when they drew all 3 group games, then ended up with an easy path to the final. They were dire throughout, but only won because CR7 went off injured and suddenly they looked like a team.

Or...

CR7 being dropped tonight and Portugal looking like a brilliant team for the first time during his career. Love that he came on as sub and still didn't score. Missed the game, so assume he was desperate to score.

 

He was obviously a brilliant player for most of his time at Real. Juve basically bankrupted themselves and got much worse with him playing for them, even though he was supposed to win them the Champions League.

City tricked United into signing him and he has cost them a fortune and been pretty hopeless. Now has left in disgrace with his reputation ruined. Please sign for PSG Ronaldo!

They’re a bit weird the Portuguese with their stars. If you think CR is overrated, can you remember Luis Figo? Had a few great games as a sprightly youngster then rested on his laurels for most of his career

[Srg]

6 minutes ago, kevinhectoring said:

They’re a bit weird the Portuguese with their stars. If you think CR is overrated, can you remember Luis Figo? Had a few great games as a sprightly youngster then rested on his laurels for most of his career

What a weird take! He even won the double in the season he retired, not forgetting the Balon D'or at one point.

[Crewton]

I noticed Remo Freuler was busy getting acclimatised for his return to the Notts Forest squad by helping his Swiss team-mates get walloped 6-1. 

Keep it up lad ??

[Srg]

14 minutes ago, Crewton said:

I noticed Remo Freuler was busy getting acclimatised for his return to the Notts Forest squad by helping his Swiss team-mates get walloped 6-1. 

Keep it up lad ??

Managed to be the first Forest player since Pierre Van Hugedonkey to score at a World Cup

[kevinhectoring]

39 minutes ago, Srg said:

What a weird take! He even won the double in the season he retired, not forgetting the Balon D'or at one point.

Yeah I see he actually pushed Zidane (then aged 28, in his prime) into second place for the ballon d’or (but Zidane had just won it a couple of years earlier). Reckon he lost his zip quite early in - unlike pastel da nata  and wine from the Duoro I don’t think he reflected the level of the Portuguese hype. 

[Stive Pesley]

12 hours ago, ariotofmyown said:

Or...

CR7 being dropped tonight and Portugal looking like a brilliant team for the first time during his career. Love that he came on as sub and still didn't score. Missed the game, so assume he was desperate to score.

Even funnier than that - he did score, but he was so far offside that even he knew that he was miles offside, but still ran through and slotted it away. The crowd went wild, but the look on his face was great. He couldn't celebrate because he already knew it didn't count

 

[Crewton]

9 minutes ago, Stive Pesley said:

Even funnier than that - he did score, but he was so far offside that even he knew that he was miles offside, but still ran through and slotted it away. The crowd went wild, but the look on his face was great. He couldn't celebrate because he already knew it didn't count

 

When he came on, he looked like a man who'd met the Ghost of Christmases yet to come. 

[Animal is a Ram]

1 hour ago, Srg said:

Managed to be the first Forest player since Pierre Van Hugedonkey to score at a World Cup

Nearly choked on my coffee. Well played, enjoyed that. 

[Foreveram]

score has many definitions such as, success in obtaining something (such as money or drugs) especially through illegal or irregular means, so not necessarily the first.?