europia Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 5 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: It’s utter nonsense, we owe them nothing. Let them take us to court. Absolutely, if they are so convinced they have a case let them them start the ££ meter running on their legal advisors account. The case would be laughed out of court IMO r_wilcockson and Phuket Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 15 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: No idea, until I'm faced with such a conundrum. However, I did once get outnumbered and attacked by Watford fans up by Ivy Square. In an attempt to avoid getting knocked to the ground and getting my head caved in (It was all the rage, back in the day), I carried out what I considered an act of "self preservation" by blindly (I literally closed my eyes!) swinging an air-punch in their general direction... just as the rozzers* screeched around the corner! The ensuing arrest, and charge of breach of the peace was followed by a guilty plea, and a subsequent £80 fine. Maggie had had enough of football hooligans, and was starting to consider making examples of them. The duty solicitor advised that any plea of innocence would likely lead to a guilty verdict, and potential bird* Before or since, I have never considered myself a hooligan, have never had a penchant for fisticuffs, and have never connected with a punch, to a human being. And yet history shows me as being guilty, and as being punished as such. Make of that what you will. *I picked up the lingo, during my one and only 3 hour stint in pokey! Did you pick up the soap in your one and only 3 hour stint in pokey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, i-Ram said: Did you pick up the soap in your one and only 3 hour stint in pokey? I didn't need to... I got one of my bitches to pass it to me! Rev and i-Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 18 minutes ago, europia said: Absolutely, if they are so convinced they have a case let them them start the ££ meter running on their legal advisors account. The case would be laughed out of court IMO Indeed ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 51 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: No idea, until I'm faced with such a conundrum. However, I did once get outnumbered and attacked by Watford fans up by Ivy Square. In an attempt to avoid getting knocked to the ground and getting my head caved in (It was all the rage, back in the day), I carried out what I considered an act of "self preservation" by blindly (I literally closed my eyes!) swinging an air-punch in their general direction... just as the rozzers* screeched around the corner! The ensuing arrest, and charge of breach of the peace was followed by a guilty plea, and a subsequent £80 fine. Maggie had had enough of football hooligans, and was starting to consider making examples of them. The duty solicitor advised that any plea of innocence would likely lead to a guilty verdict, and potential bird* Before or since, I have never considered myself a hooligan, have never had a penchant for fisticuffs, and have never connected with a punch, to a human being. And yet history shows me as being guilty, and as being punished as such. Make of that what you will. *I picked up the lingo, during my one and only 3 hour stint in pokey! Serves you right, you animal! Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro_RAM Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 6 hours ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Agreeing to pay them off would be the end of the football league as an entity. The competition would have no integrity and on a practical level, who's going to do stuff like referee games in an environment where some chancer could throw a lawsuit at you for wrongly awarding a corner etc? If Gibson succeeds, the whole edifice will crumble. So A. This is actually a very good point, think of all the wrong decisions in football. Should have been offside, was a clear handball etc. If this was to go ahead it would open the doors to suing every wrong decision in football. Kathcairns, Phuket Ram and r_wilcockson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 Can we sue boro and wycombe for losses and damages towards our great club. I know nuffin, Kathcairns and RAM1966 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheresOnlyWanChope Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 This crazy hypothetical scenario is interesting as choosing a) would involve the club being liquidated anyway. I would go for b if there is a strong connection to the original football club - AFC Derby County for example. Besides, there is no case and I would be sickened if those clubs received money from the team I support, I would be ashamed to be a fan of such a team who give in to such bullying. Retro_RAM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Mucker1884 said: Before or since, I have never considered myself a hooligan, have never had a penchant for fisticuffs, and have never connected with a punch, to a human being I have a follow up question, you thug. Which sentient beings have you punched? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said: There was no right of appeal against Derby's fine, or the consequent demand to redo our accounts. The admin team said they agreed settlement re the penalty points with EFL in order to bring certainty to the buyer. The process would have lasted months or more.. we hadn't been charged by EFL but the last process took 18 months from the charge being made to the final decision . God knows how many seasons worth of relegated teams might want to sue us then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 34 minutes ago, Retro_RAM said: This is actually a very good point, think of all the wrong decisions in football. Should have been offside, was a clear handball etc. If this was to go ahead it would open the doors to suing every wrong decision in football. Villa would have to deal with us and Bournemouth in that case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Mucker1884 said: No idea, until I'm faced with such a conundrum. However, I did once get outnumbered and attacked by Watford fans up by Ivy Square. In an attempt to avoid getting knocked to the ground and getting my head caved in (It was all the rage, back in the day), I carried out what I considered an act of "self preservation" by blindly (I literally closed my eyes!) swinging an air-punch in their general direction... just as the rozzers* screeched around the corner! The ensuing arrest, and charge of breach of the peace was followed by a guilty plea, and a subsequent £80 fine. Maggie had had enough of football hooligans, and was starting to consider making examples of them. The duty solicitor advised that any plea of innocence would likely lead to a guilty verdict, and potential bird* Before or since, I have never considered myself a hooligan, have never had a penchant for fisticuffs, and have never connected with a punch, to a human being. And yet history shows me as being guilty, and as being punished as such. Make of that what you will. *I picked up the lingo, during my one and only 3 hour stint in pokey! Back in the early 70's, a policeman on a motorbike stopped by my dad after a game, said he was sick of twits at football given him aggravation and punched him in the stomach whilst sporting a large and heavy leather glove. He then promptly got on his motorbike and left. He didn't get done for breach of the peace. ? My dad did a few times. On one occasion he wound up in a holding cell with John Conteh after a game in Manchester. Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, TigerTedd said: God knows how many seasons worth of relegated teams might want to sue us then. We'll be suing all the promoted ones. It'll be fine. I'm sure we offered 3 million quid for Francis and Ritchie at Bournemouth back in the summer of 2014. They'd grossly gone over FFP, yet turned down our offer. Based on all the outrage caused by us not selling players for some lint and a couple of coppers found down Rowetts sofa, surely we can sue Bournemouth on two counts. Not selling to us and then getting promoted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthernRam Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 If it really does come down to this, football really is in a sorry state. Let’s see a preferred bidder announced and let them negotiate. If they can negotiate a price they deem to be reasonable then so be it. If not, we surely have the right to appeal to the EFL to take it to court? Any less would be extortion and would surely undermine the EFL’s long term position as a custodian of the league and it’s members. Kathcairns and RAM1966 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I would say neither. Let Boro and Wycombe take legal action if they think they have a case, and be laughed out of court. However, I voted the phoenix simply option because no one is going to pay them money on top of our massive debts to buy the club. If the EFL really insists any purchaser must settle with them before we're allowed to function as a club, then we will cease to function as a club so phoenix is the only option. Ghost of Clough, r_wilcockson, Kathcairns and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 5 hours ago, BriggRam said: That pole is a worse choice than do ya mum or be done by ya dad ? BriggRam and Mucker1884 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted January 11, 2022 Share Posted January 11, 2022 I think we should tell them to shut up otherwise we will take them to court. The only who will fund this? could we start a fund raiser or maybe Mel do something decent and fund it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4ev6is Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 I see Gibson in hell before he gets a penny of us. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Rev said: I have a follow up question, you thug. Which sentient beings have you punched? I’d hazard a guess at zero, but I’d have to look up the word sentient before I could confirm! Woodley Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodley Ram Posted January 12, 2022 Share Posted January 12, 2022 IF the bastion of democratic thinking that is the EFL allow us to have a new owner and come out of Administration then we should settle both at Court. I doubt if it would get that far but if it goes full term that's where it should be settled. Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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