Tyler Durden Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Regardless of whether you think Rooney is a good manager or not the reality is that he's going to be here until at least the end of January if the administrators timelines are realistic. So folks can grumble and gripe about Rooney but the facts are it'll be groundhog day every Saturday as he ain't going anywhere soon. Jourdan, strawhillram and jimtastic56 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Just now, Tyler Durden said: Regardless of whether you think Rooney is a good manager or not the reality is that he's going to be here until at least the end of January if the administrators timelines are realistic. So folks can grumble and gripe about Rooney but the facts are it'll be groundhog day every Saturday as he ain't going anywhere soon. I don't mind him being here as long as there is improvement but again 1 win in the last 11 doesn't smack of improvement. Tbh id be happy if i knew the way he wanted to play and saw a game plan. How many times are we being caught for goals where he plays the full backs so high they can't get back but still doesn't have the brains to change it. This is by what i mean he is out of his depth. Lets just hope he learns for next season from this season on where he has gone wrong. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Miggins and jimtastic56 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: Regardless of whether you think Rooney is a good manager or not the reality is that he's going to be here until at least the end of January if the administrators timelines are realistic. So folks can grumble and gripe about Rooney but the facts are it'll be groundhog day every Saturday as he ain't going anywhere soon. Wazza seems to have gone from pariah to messiah and back to meh in half a season...... ? Miggins, Jourdan, Tyler Durden and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Just now, Van der MoodHoover said: Wazza seems to have gone from pariah to messiah and back to meh in half a season...... ? Went to the messiah because he stuck with us even though it took another team to keep us up on the last day. Ive never known us to be so down that we are happy to win 4 so far this season out of 22. We were on the backs of other managers for less. Remember when clement had us 5th and half this forum wanted him gone for less. Never ever get it. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 7 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: We hardly added when cocu was in charge first season and he got us to 12th. Albeit with martin and waghorn in the side. What were we before Rooney played his first game - 20th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Just now, Barney1991 said: I don't mind him being here as long as there is improvement but again 1 win in the last 11 doesn't smack of improvement. Tbh id be happy if i knew the way he wanted to play and saw a game plan. How many times are we being caught for goals where he plays the full backs so high they can't get back but still doesn't have the brains to change it. This is by what i mean he is out of his depth. Lets just hope he learns for next season from this season on where he has gone wrong. For avoidance of doubt I'm not defending Rooney as a manager neither am I being critical of him, just pointing out that whether you like or loathe Rooney as a manager the reality is that he's going to be here for another 2 months minimum IF the administrators timeframes are correct. IF we get new owners in then what manager of any pedigree would then jump at the chance of taking over the reigns of a club with one foot in League 1 and a shower of variable playing talent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: I don't mind him being here as long as there is improvement but again 1 win in the last 11 doesn't smack of improvement. Tbh id be happy if i knew the way he wanted to play and saw a game plan. How many times are we being caught for goals where he plays the full backs so high they can't get back but still doesn't have the brains to change it. This is by what i mean he is out of his depth. Lets just hope he learns for next season from this season on where he has gone wrong. No complaints from me there Barny...But! what on earth is Rosenior his assistant doing, If he's a nodding donkey and there just to appease WR then a P45 should be issued, You have an assistant for footballing reasons...i'd hope Miggins, Barney1991 and jimtastic56 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Barney1991 said: Went to the messiah because he stuck with us even though it took another team to keep us up on the last day. Ive never known us to be so down that we are happy to win 4 so far this season out of 22. We were on the backs of other managers for less. Remember when clement had us 5th and half this forum wanted him gone for less. Never ever get it. My thinking was he was a pariah for "slapper gate", messiah for his work around the club on going into administration and meh for being, well, Tyler Durden 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Cutting to the chase, I'd love to hear how the "Rooney out" merchants who appear after EVERY SINGLE DEFEAT would fund the sacking of him and his coaching team and attract a new manager right now. Come on, let's hear your plan. Jourdan, Eddie, CBRammette and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said: For avoidance of doubt I'm not defending Rooney as a manager neither am I being critical of him, just pointing out that whether you like or loathe Rooney as a manager the reality is that he's going to be here for another 2 months minimum IF the administrators timeframes are correct. IF we get new owners in then what manager of any pedigree would then jump at the chance of taking over the reigns of a club with one foot in League 1 and a shower of variable playing talent? Tbh id go for Ryan Lowe at Plymouth if we get to the end of the season as i would keep Rooney till end of season with where we are it would be pointless to sack mid season and we don't have the money. Been impressed with Lowe there tbh. D a good job where was before them as well Edited December 4, 2021 by Barney1991 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Crewton said: Cutting to the chase, I'd love to hear how the "Rooney out" merchants who appear after EVERY SINGLE DEFEAT would fund the sacking of him and his coaching team and attract a new manager right now. Come on, let's hear your plan. I'd keep him till the end of the season in all fairness. I'm just stating what I've said earlier regards game plans and records but i wouldn't pay to sack him and at least let him see out the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 6 minutes ago, Barney1991 said: I don't mind him being here as long as there is improvement but again 1 win in the last 11 doesn't smack of improvement. Tbh id be happy if i knew the way he wanted to play and saw a game plan. How many times are we being caught for goals where he plays the full backs so high they can't get back but still doesn't have the brains to change it. This is by what i mean he is out of his depth. Lets just hope he learns for next season from this season on where he has gone wrong. Exactly Barney…..if he wants to play wing backs play 3 centre halves, otherwise we are exposed. Not rocket science. Wazza has been dealt a very poor hand but not played it particularly well. I am happy for him to stay and see it through until the end of January when hopefully the new owners are in place and then it will be time for a change ? Chester40, Barney1991 and Jourdan 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, Unlucky Alf said: No complaints from me there Barny...But! what on earth is Rosenior his assistant doing, If he's a nodding donkey and there just to appease WR then a P45 should be issued, You have an assistant for footballing reasons...i'd hope What, get rid of the monkey not the organ grinder ? jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Just now, Barney1991 said: I'd keep him till the end of the season in all fairness. I'm just stating what I've said earlier regards game plans and records but i wouldn't pay to sack him and at least let him see out the season. If we retain Rooney it needs to be done on far better terms. He’s still one of the highest paid managers in the Championship. In League One his salary will be that of many others combined. And he hasn’t really warranted it has he? Jimbo Ram, Barney1991 and jimtastic56 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Brolly Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 That was absolutely bloody rubbish what the hell are we afraid of go down fighting that's all I want.we should be playing every game like it's the last one of the season and we need to win . strawhillram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Barney1991 said: I'd keep him till the end of the season in all fairness. I'm just stating what I've said earlier regards game plans and records but i wouldn't pay to sack him and at least let him see out the season. You'd still have to pay him off, which is not a great way to start a new era of financially responsible management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney1991 Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 minutes ago, Crewton said: You'd still have to pay him off, which is not a great way to start a new era of financially responsible management. And paying a manager 90k a week in league 1 isn't great either so all swings and roundabouts. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 3 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: If we retain Rooney it needs to be done on far better terms. He’s still one of the highest paid managers in the Championship. In League One his salary will be that of many others combined. And he hasn’t really warranted it has he? Thought you meant far better terms for him for a split second.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Jimbo Ram said: What, get rid of the ****** not the organ grinder ? I'd change that pretty smartish Edited December 4, 2021 by Unlucky Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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