hintonsboots Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Ellafella said: Absolutely. I vomited when Shearer said " "pluck-ee Les-ta" are a fine example of hoo-ta run a football club" after their Fa Cup victory ? Drifting inoo Sid the sexist mode there though but. Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellafella Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, hintonsboots said: Drifting inoo Sid the sexist mode there though but. europia and hintonsboots 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcnram Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Beetle said: Well ran? Leicester have lost £90m in the last two years. How can they be well ran? When the owner decides he no longer wants to keep paying that to keep the club running (because it will happen at some point), as ours now has, are they still well ran? And winning the Premier league title, FA Cup, qualifying for Champions league, building a £100M training ground, paying ALL of their staff during the lockdown including part-time staff and getting them to work in the community. Preparing plans for a major increase in capacity. Attracting top signings and being able to move players on for significant fees. I think they are doing OK. ? MuespachRam, Brammie Steve and Reggie Greenwood 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wistaston Ram Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, bcnram said: And winning the Premier league title, FA Cup, qualifying for Champions league, building a £100M training ground, paying ALL of their staff during the lockdown including part-time staff and getting them to work in the community. Preparing plans for a major increase in capacity. Attracting top signings and being able to move players on for significant fees. I think they are doing OK. ? I wouldn't mind being run that 'badly' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramleicester Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, bcnram said: And winning the Premier league title, FA Cup, qualifying for Champions league, building a £100M training ground, paying ALL of their staff during the lockdown including part-time staff and getting them to work in the community. Preparing plans for a major increase in capacity. Attracting top signings and being able to move players on for significant fees. I think they are doing OK. ? Over the last 4 years in total they are running at a profit I think, showing the sort of prudence that can cope with a downturn in revenue due to a crisis like covid. Like many Premier league clubs they have the capitalisation and reserves to cope. The structure of English football means that some cubs decide to gamble capital and reserves, like all gambles sometimes you win sometimes you don't. My fundamental problem with the EFL is that there rather pathetic rules and governance do nothing to control the gambles until AFTER the event with punishments that do not help but simply make the job of recovery harder. Ellafella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ramleicester said: My fundamental problem with the EFL is that there rather pathetic rules and governance do nothing to control the gambles until AFTER the event with punishments that do not help but simply make the job of recovery harder. Exactly. Also why should promotion to the Premier league allow a club to avoid points deductions for FFP breaches in the Championship ? It is analogous to an individual committing fraud on a massive scale and then fleeing to the Costa Del Sol to escape punishment. GB SPORTS, Kathcairns, r_wilcockson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Tyler Durden said: When it comes to that point then surely the owner will just sell the club rather than dump it into administration? If They can find a buyer...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 23 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Exactly. Also why should promotion to the Premier league allow a club to avoid points deductions for FFP breaches in the Championship ? It is analogous to an individual committing fraud on a massive scale and then fleeing to the Costa Del Sol to escape punishment. They should get a points deduction when religated back into the championship as most are sooner or later Ted McMinn Football Genius, kevinhectoring and r_wilcockson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 45 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: Exactly. Also why should promotion to the Premier league allow a club to avoid points deductions for FFP breaches in the Championship ? It is analogous to an individual committing fraud on a massive scale and then fleeing to the Costa Del Sol to escape punishment. That's it. The EFL needs an extradition treaty with the EPL! RadioactiveWaste, Crewton, Mucker1884 and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, angieram said: That's it. The EFL needs an extradition treaty with the EPL! Looks like Vila may be coming back anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I know nuffin Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, angieram said: That's it. The EFL needs an extradition treaty with the EPL! QPR found out how terrible the sanctions were for breaking ffp to get promotion. They were fined £5 million which sound quite a bit except they trousered £100 million plus from being in the premiership and parachute payments. In these days of transparency I have seen nothing about what sanction Villa got or anyone else. Wasn't it said 8 our of 10 clubs promoted broke ffp. Sanctions are for failure to be oromoted LeedsCityRam, Crewton, Reggie Greenwood and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 7 hours ago, bcnram said: And winning the Premier league title, FA Cup, qualifying for Champions league, building a £100M training ground, paying ALL of their staff during the lockdown including part-time staff and getting them to work in the community. Preparing plans for a major increase in capacity. Attracting top signings and being able to move players on for significant fees. I think they are doing OK. ? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3582034/Leicester-City-s-Premier-League-success-restored-faith-football-darker-fairytale.html what a lovely club Kathcairns 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Not to mention their chairman risking the lives of thousands of fans by flying a ducking helicopter into a full stadium. I always find it strange how he's remembered so well when his pointless extravagance got himself and 4 others killed. Edited November 12, 2021 by Coconut's Beard MuespachRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 7 hours ago, bcnram said: And winning the Premier league title, FA Cup, qualifying for Champions league, building a £100M training ground, paying ALL of their staff during the lockdown including part-time staff and getting them to work in the community. Preparing plans for a major increase in capacity. Attracting top signings and being able to move players on for significant fees. I think they are doing OK. ? It all came from cheating though, so well done them eh? Kathcairns and Reggie Greenwood 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3582034/Leicester-City-s-Premier-League-success-restored-faith-football-darker-fairytale.html what a lovely club Adrian Durham can be a right nob sometimes but that article is spot on. Every time someone fawns over that lot, I feel sick. Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaRam Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3582034/Leicester-City-s-Premier-League-success-restored-faith-football-darker-fairytale.html what a lovely club Half way down that article they describe Derby… the club that lives beyond its means but it doesn’t work out for them. Funny old world at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 6 hours ago, angieram said: That's it. The EFL needs an extradition treaty with the EPL! What they need is the same determination they've persued us with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 A prescient paragraph in describing a ffp transgression .... Leicester will be fined. But like Vardy in his Bentley, like Fuchs showering his manager with champagne on Saturday, who cares? It will be barely a footnote to the bigger story. In a few years time, watch out for the story of another club who takes risk, tries to do a Leicester by paying wages they can't afford, but this time it goes wrong and the club takes itself to the brink of existence. What kind of owner takes a 'risk' with the future of a football club? Also talks about Bournemouth in similar vein and describes their own chairman as loading up salaries in order to "take a risk". So seems that it's quite common.... Reggie Greenwood 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FoxInPeace1 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Coconut's Beard said: Not to mention their chairman risking the lives of thousands of fans by flying a ducking helicopter into a full stadium. I always find it strange how he's remembered so well when his pointless extravagance got himself and 4 others killed. Well that’s ridiculous to say really isn’t it AFTER the event. Helicopters are clearly more dangerous than planes but how many helicopters operate a day without incident? We’d been doing it for years on the Remembrance Fixture with the RAF delivering the match ball Watching it back now, yeah it makes me cringe, but I don’t think many thought of it like that at the time MuespachRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted November 13, 2021 Share Posted November 13, 2021 14 minutes ago, FoxInPeace1 said: Well that’s ridiculous to say really isn’t it AFTER the event. Helicopters are clearly more dangerous than planes but how many helicopters operate a day without incident? We’d been doing it for years on the Remembrance Fixture with the RAF delivering the match ball Watching it back now, yeah it makes me cringe, but I don’t think many thought of it like that at the time I always thought it seemed ridiculous and unnecessarily risky being honest. Perhaps the tone of the original point is a little harsh but I don't get how health and safety regulations ever allowed a helicopter to land so close to thousands of people. FoxInPeace1, Carnero and Reggie Greenwood 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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