StarterForTen Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 So does the appeal decision now mean Wycombe are incoming with they £15m writ? Good luck with that! RadioactiveWaste and Abu Derby 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Ted McMinn Football Genius, LeedsCityRam, maxjam and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gee SCREAMER !! Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Anag Ram said: So can Bournemouth file a claim for the points we took off them which affected their playoff fixtures? yep, as long as we can counter sue for that season they finished second and we finished seventh. Martin got injured in that away game in a challenge with Francis who we tried to sign that previous summer . Stopped us getting a top 6 place and probable 2nd.They should have been forced to sell him to us by the EFL as they were well outside FFP. SUE SUE SUE SUE ............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 1 hour ago, StarterForTen said: So does the appeal decision now mean Wycombe are incoming with they £15m writ? Good luck with that! The written reasons are very clear that they didn’t deduct points because there is no evidence that the 2 breaches we have been found guilty of so far actually resulted in a sporting advantage on the pitch. I’d say that’s a massive point in our favour if Wycombe did decide to try something on. Obviously if the restated accounts resulted in a massive overspend then it’s a different case. But even then, the penalties etc are clearly laid out for that kind of breach. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Wycombe Wanderers stop crying your heart out , get over it you tinpot outfit , enjoy your visits to Cambridge , Wigan and Doncaster etc hahahahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 All the shrapnel around this is a disgrace. As I’ve said befor people’s perception has been wrong . I have said all along we are not guilty of anything. Nothing to see here. . The whole thing was a pantomime which had even the strongest advocates of our innocence wobbling derbydaz22, The Scarlet Pimpernel, Zag zig and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, Curtains said: All the shrapnel around this is a disgrace. Agreed As I’ve said befor people’s perception has been wrong . Perhaps I have said all along we are not guilty of anything. Wrong Nothing to see here. . Wrong The whole thing was a pantomime which had even the strongest advocates of our innocence wobbling Been amusing hasn’t it. ^^^^^^^^^^^ answers above. We are back it seems currently to blaming Morris and Pearce for just general mismanagement of the club, giving them some leeway at this stage as to their ‘clever’ accounting. RadioactiveWaste and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 6 minutes ago, i-Ram said: ^^^^^^^^^^^ answers above. We are back it seems currently to blaming Morris and Pearce for just general mismanagement of the club, giving them some leeway at this stage as to their ‘clever’ accounting. The 100k fine is just to appease the other clubs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Curtains said: The 100k fine is just to appease the other clubs Agreed. But we were in the wrong. Read the judgment. We tried to ‘game’ for some benefit but secured none. None of that though excuses the shitshow performed by the EFL. Charliegeorge1962 and RadioactiveWaste 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Just now, i-Ram said: Agreed. But we were in the wrong. Read the judgment. We tried to ‘game’ for some benefit but secured none. None of that though excuses the shitshow performed by the EFL. As I say it’s about perception IMO Not going to argue it’s not creative accounting that the rules allow though . Mate the EFL have put us Derby fans through the ringer and to be honest I’ve not found it fun. Het ho we move on. The takeover is the crucial thing now. i-Ram and Mostyn6 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 In any other walk of life barring the public sector, bottoms would be kicked and jobs lost after the performance of some at The EFL. I think those at the top, yes Parry, I’m looking at you mainly, are an embarrassment and not fit for purpose. He really should do the honourable thing but then, whoever jumps off a gravy train ? RoyMac5 and LeedsCityRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 What we did was unique. I don't buy that it was somehow uniquely awful - even though that appears to be the narrative outside of Derby. I don't think we come out well. I do hope we can move forward soon. The relief has faded and now it's just a case of digestion of the after effects and hoping we pull together a reasonable squad next season and the takeover actually happens. i-Ram and NottsRam77 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: What we did was unique. I don't buy that it was somehow uniquely awful - even though that appears to be the narrative outside of Derby. I don't think we come out well. I do hope we can move forward soon. The relief has faded and now it's just a case of digestion of the after effects and hoping we pull together a reasonable squad next season and the takeover actually happens. I think you are far too negative. Incidentally MM paid Derby’s wages in June . https://www.footballfancast.com/Derby-county-news/Derby-county-efl-takeover-mel-morris-alan-nixon-the-championship Edited July 3, 2021 by Curtains To or too RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 18 hours ago, duncanjwitham said: The written reasons are very clear that they didn’t deduct points because there is no evidence that the 2 breaches we have been found guilty of so far actually resulted in a sporting advantage on the pitch. I’d say that’s a massive point in our favour if Wycombe did decide to try something on. Obviously if the restated accounts resulted in a massive overspend then it’s a different case. But even then, the penalties etc are clearly laid out for that kind of breach. If we do breach though isn’t there a massive factor of mitigating circumstances ie if the efl had challenged our accounting methods at the time and not waited 3 years having allowed them through we wouldn’t have changed not only accounti by practices but our transfer policy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 hour ago, RadioactiveWaste said: What we did was unique. I don't buy that it was somehow uniquely awful - even though that appears to be the narrative outside of Derby. I don't think we come out well. I do hope we can move forward soon. The relief has faded and now it's just a case of digestion of the after effects and hoping we pull together a reasonable squad next season and the takeover actually happens. And the only real reason the narrative outside of Derby is so bad is that none of them actually seem to know what we've been charged with, and why we were found guilty. There are still people who think it's about the stadium, and still people who think we're valuing players at more than £0 when their contracts have expired. 50 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: If we do breach though isn’t there a massive factor of mitigating circumstances ie if the efl had challenged our accounting methods at the time and not waited 3 years having allowed them through we wouldn’t have changed not only accounti by practices but our transfer policy That would be my argument, yes. I suppose it might come down to how bad any breaches are. If we're only a few million over then it's certainly a big mitigating factor. If we're like £30m over then it's a different ballgame. RadioactiveWaste 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NottsRam77 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Is this relevant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Has this news reached Mr Pop of Bristol City? TigerTedd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, NottsRam77 said: Is this relevant Sounds like potentially we have some hitherto unused special profits outside of the 40m we made by revaluing the stadium up to 80m most recently. This would make Gibson explode if it's allowable. RadioactiveWaste, The Scarlet Pimpernel and TigerTedd 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Scarlet Pimpernel Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 1 minute ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Sounds like potentially we have some hitherto unused special profits outside of the 40m we made by revaluing the stadium up to 80m most recently. This would make Gibson explode if it's allowable. That's the issue I guess. Who decides what's allowable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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