Jourdan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 57 minutes ago, Rammy03 said: I get that there's still work to do but I really think you're clutching at straws here. The reason it's been like an 'extended honeymoon period' is because Rooney has the team playing properly now and working hard to get results. I don't believe in the so called new manager bounce. When a manager gets sacked it's usually because the team is playing awful football and losing, like we were under cocu. We've now just reverted to type. We never were a relegation team. It would be absolutely shocking if Derby were to get relegated, we have enough good players to be well clear. Yes, maybe I would be clutching at straws if we were six points clear with four games to go, or if we had been in this kind of form for 30-35 games. But there are 17 games to play and we’ll see what this team is really made of and whether this confidence is well-placed. For me, you have to be cautious with this group of players because they can be hugely unreliable. No-one is disputing that Rooney has done a good job so far and is getting better performances and results from this group of players, but will it last and will it evolve into something more palatable? We were never a relegation candidate? We have spent almost 30 games in the bottom 6-8 places. The table doesn’t lie. Of course it would be shocking and devastating to get relegated, but it is still a distinct possibility at the moment. We still need 5-7 wins to be sure of our divisional status. That might not seem much of a task on current form, but how quickly it could become a mountain to climb. Let’s see where we are in 10 games. If we are comfortably safe, I will come back and hold my hands up and say I was worrying over nothing. Norman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 5 minutes ago, Spanish said: They are not carp though could be any result, boring or a thrashing for either side Yes will be a difficult game but I think if we can beat them if we keep Murray and Knockart quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Of course it would be shocking and devastating to get relegated, but it is still a distinct possibility at the moment. We still need 5-7 wins to be sure of our divisional status. That might not seem much of a task on current form, but how quickly it could become a mountain to climb. Gawww it must be grim inside your head? We're not going down! #COYR bcnram, Carnero, Derby blood and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 10 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Gawww it must be grim inside your head? We're not going down! #COYR What, for being real about the situation? Not a very classy comment to make, either. RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 29 minutes ago, Spanish said: Not sure they can afford the cost Not sure they can afford to get relegated either to be fair! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Norman said: What, for being real about the situation? Not a very classy comment to make, either. Lol! Says you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 (edited) If anyone fancies a laugh... "Why Birmingham City WILL get promoted this season" Edited February 17, 2021 by JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta TigerTedd, LeedsCityRam and RadioactiveWaste 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Not sure they can afford to get relegated either to be fair! Terrible position to be in. Get it wrong and the points penalty could put them 2 leagues down. JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Gawww it must be grim inside your head? We're not going down! #COYR With the greatest respect, my head is clear. There is a long way to go. Only two games ago, we were in the bottom three and we’ve been in the bottom 6-8 positions for two thirds of this season, so it’s hardly outrageous to be cautious about our survival prospects. You can relax if you want. You are infatuated with Rooney and that’s fine. But with respect, not every Derby fan is going to see our situation like yourself. Knowing how people treated you over your views about Martin, Cocu and so on, I would have thought you would know what it’s like to be belittled for your opinions and you would not treat others like that. Quite surprising for you to say something like ‘it’s grim in your head’. LeedsCityRam and Norman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Just now, Jourdan said: Knowing how people treated you over your views about Martin, Cocu and so on, I would have thought you would know what it’s like to be belittled for your opinions and you would not treat others like that. Quite surprising for you to say something like ‘it’s grim in your head’. I'm a Rooney fan boy for sure, we're no longer in danger of going down, plenty of others looking worse than us! As I said to another poster I'm only in a negative mindset when it's clear things are grim - you seem unable to see the light. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Whilst it remains something of a long shot, the makers of the Relagometer felt there was a need in the marketplace for other Relagometers for teams being sucked inexorably towards their spiritual home in the third tier. As such, here is a sneek preview of the "Are Forest going down-o-meter. Naturally, the phrase going down and keeping the forest content family friendly led to an extended development time, but here she is, may her needle swing happily southward over the coming weeks. TigerTedd and Jourdan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Yes, maybe I would be clutching at straws if we were six points clear with four games to go, or if we had been in this kind of form for 30-35 games. But there are 17 games to play and we’ll see what this team is really made of and whether this confidence is well-placed. For me, you have to be cautious with this group of players because they can be hugely unreliable. No-one is disputing that Rooney has done a good job so far and is getting better performances and results from this group of players, but will it last and will it evolve into something more palatable? We were never a relegation candidate? We have spent almost 30 games in the bottom 6-8 places. The table doesn’t lie. Of course it would be shocking and devastating to get relegated, but it is still a distinct possibility at the moment. We still need 5-7 wins to be sure of our divisional status. That might not seem much of a task on current form, but how quickly it could become a mountain to climb. Let’s see where we are in 10 games. If we are comfortably safe, I will come back and hold my hands up and say I was worrying over nothing. There's 4 teams currently below us that only have 16 games to play. So we would have to lose the game in hand and those 4 teams would have to better us (in their points total) for the rest of the season. And on top of that Sheff Wed/Rotherham would also have to pull in better points total in their remaining 17 and 18 games. Wycombe are as good as down, we only have to stay above 2 other teams to stay up. Another thing of note, If you dont concede a goal, you don't lose. All 7 teams below us have conceded more goals and as a matter of fact, there is only FIVE teams in the Championship thats conceded less than the Rams. RoyMac5, Rammy03 and Premier ram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, plymouthram said: There's 4 teams currently below us that only have 16 games to play. So we would have to lose the game in hand and those 4 teams would have to better us (in their points total) for the rest of the season. And on top of that Sheff Wed/Rotherham would also have to pull in better points total in their remaining 17 and 18 games. Wycombe are as good as down, we only have to stay above 2 other teams to stay up. Another thing of note, If you dont concede a goal, you don't lose. All 7 teams below us have conceded more goals and as a matter of fact, there is only FIVE teams in the Championship thats conceded less than the Rams. Makes the rovrum result so odd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Spanish said: Makes the rovrum result so odd On current form I think Wycombe and Brum are certs to go down. Think the other place will be between Cov , Hudds or Rotherham. Think Sheff Wed will survive , us and unfortunately the dogs will be clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plymouthram Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 4 minutes ago, RadioactiveWaste said: Whilst it remains something of a long shot, the makers of the Relagometer felt there was a need in the marketplace for other Relagometers for teams being sucked inexorably towards their spiritual home in the third tier. As such, here is a sneek preview of the "Are Forest going down-o-meter. Naturally, the phrase going down and keeping the forest content family friendly led to an extended development time, but here she is, may her needle swing happily southward over the coming weeks. Have you seen their March fixtures, If I was a red dog it could be worry worry time. RadioactiveWaste and Curtains 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipley Ram Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 This will turn things arround for them 21:44 Post update Bournemouth 1-0 Rotherham The visitors make their first substitution, brining on winger Florian Jozefzoon for Daniel Barlaser. RadioactiveWaste and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Some interesting midweek fixtures next week : Forest v Rotherham Birmingham v Norwich Wycombe v Reading whilst we're home to another team in trouble Huddersfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 rov lose as predicted at half time @Curtains @James Pond Ram-Alf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted February 17, 2021 Author Share Posted February 17, 2021 Our Win was a 15 pointer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 Looking at the previous 5 seasons the highest points total needed to stay up was 51, we’ve got 17 games to go 51 points to play for and only 17 needed, 5 wins a couple of draws and could afford to lose a whopping 10 games, surely we can’t fudge that up? Mckram and JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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