May Contain Nuts Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Sparkle said: Bryson was out injured as well and we had Holmes in central midfield - enough said probably? Not really. Bryson featured in the first 5 of those games (although wasn't massively important to us under Lampard anyway) & Holmes was in good form. It's a risk, no matter his goals/assists record in 2018/19 - remember even with his contribution, and Mount's, we still only just scraped into the playoffs that season. We could easily see chuck away £2m and have nothing to show for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Coconut said: Not really. Bryson featured in the first 5 of those games (although wasn't massively important to us under Lampard anyway) & Holmes was in good form. It's a risk, no matter his goals/assists record in 2018/19 - remember even with his contribution, and Mount's we only scraped into the playoffs that season. It was entertaining though! Anyway we had players who were new some worked some didn’t - Wilson worked and took the pressure off Lawrence whilst Marriott looked decent at times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Swansea have started really well - 3 wins in their first 4 games. Defensively, they're excellent too. I really think this would put them in the discussion for the top 2. He would be an incredible signing for them, as he would be for anyone in this league, but Swansea in particular have the most to benefit from this signing. Yes but no one can visit wales so they shouldn’t be allowed to play ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Greenwood Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Coconut said: Not really. Bryson featured in the first 5 of those games (although wasn't massively important to us under Lampard anyway) & Holmes was in good form. It's a risk, no matter his goals/assists record in 2018/19 - remember even with his contribution, and Mount's, we still only just scraped into the playoffs that season. We could easily see chuck away £2m and have nothing to show for it. Is Harry the new T Ince ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Why should we be going for Harry Wilson in one word? Bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, Reggie Greenwood said: Is Harry the new T Ince ? BANNED TOPIC! Nah, Harry complemented the rest of the squad and genuinely has the ability to play at a higher level. Better passer, better vision, better free kicks, less selfish. Whether he has a PL career in 3-4 years remains to be seen though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jourdan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Any guesses on the signing reveal video? Louie Sibley in the Moor Farm car park putting Elland Road into his sat-nav. Then he hears a knock on the window. He rolls the window down to see Harry Wilson in full Derby gear. Harry pokes his head through the window and says ‘Where do you think you’re going?’ Perfection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jourdan said: Any guesses on the signing reveal video? Louie Sibley in the Moor Farm car park putting Elland Road into his sat-nav. Then he hears a knock on the window. He rolls the window down to see Harry Wilson in full Derby gear. Harry pokes his head through the window and says ‘Where do you think you’re going?’ Perfection. If the email about kits I just got from the club is anything to go by, it'll be a major surprise if they spell everything right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo jones Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Swansea have started really well - 3 wins in their first 4 games. Defensively, they're excellent too. I really think this would put them in the discussion for the top 2. He would be an incredible signing for them, as he would be for anyone in this league, but Swansea in particular have the most to benefit from this signing. I’ve only seen the game against Wycombe, who are probably the worst side to ever play in the second division. They looked good first half, were garbage second half and nearly let Wycombe back in it. Still, that’s probably promotion contender stuff this season. The lad on loan from wolves looked a very good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ambitious said: Swansea have started really well - 3 wins in their first 4 games. Defensively, they're excellent too. I really think this would put them in the discussion for the top 2. He would be an incredible signing for them, as he would be for anyone in this league, but Swansea in particular have the most to benefit from this signing. If reports are true that Liverpool have turned down an offer from Swansea as financially unacceptable it makes you wonder just what Liverpool are looking for by way of a loan fee. I would assume Swansea are not cash-strapped since they still receive parachute payments, had reported fees of £15m & £17m for James and McBurnie and now look like there's strong interest in Rodon and possibly Ayew. I hope Mel Morris won't be tempted into splashing out an exorbitant loan fee and leave us with little or no budget left to invest in the type of striker Cocu feels we need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Harry, if you are reading this - we need you mate! you are the last but 1 piece in cocu's jigsaw ......? You are already a legend here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePrisoner Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 8 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: If the email about kits I just got from the club is anything to go by, it'll be a major surprise if they spell everything right. Derby City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, ThePrisoner said: Derby City? Is Bradley back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: If reports are true that Liverpool have turned down an offer from Swansea as financially unacceptable it makes you wonder just what Liverpool are looking for by way of a loan fee. I would assume Swansea are not cash-strapped since they still receive parachute payments, had reported fees of £15m & £17m for James and McBurnie and now look like there's strong interest in Rodon and possibly Ayew. I hope Mel Morris won't be tempted into splashing out an exorbitant loan fee and leave us with little or no budget left to invest in the type of striker Cocu feels we need. Liverpool are looking for £1 million plus - make of that what you want! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcfcreece1601 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: If reports are true that Liverpool have turned down an offer from Swansea as financially unacceptable it makes you wonder just what Liverpool are looking for by way of a loan fee. I would assume Swansea are not cash-strapped since they still receive parachute payments, had reported fees of £15m & £17m for James and McBurnie and now look like there's strong interest in Rodon and possibly Ayew. I hope Mel Morris won't be tempted into splashing out an exorbitant loan fee and leave us with little or no budget left to invest in the type of striker Cocu feels we need. Agreed although Wilson is quality, a striker is more important and I feel like we would still struggle for goals having injury prone strikers not fit but 17 wingers to fit in ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brady1993 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Wilson is an interesting one and like others have suggested it might indicate that we've decided to go a different route after deals for strikers haven't materialsed, which personally I don't mind as at a certain down the striker list you've got to think "are we better waiting?". Wilson makes a lot of sense as a target I think for a few reasons but predominantly because he's the sort of player that can turn the decent positions and good territory we often work into goals. Last year we had a fair few games where we were firmly in control of the game didn't capitilise, you'd think with Wilson that becomes a different story. Make no mistake if you play Wilson as a #10 and give him a full season he could well break 20 for the season. The other side of this that is interesting to me is where do we play him and how do others fit in? He predominantly played on the wing for us in his first spell but personally I thought his better all round games came playing as one of the 3 in midfield and (like I suggested above) it's really not difficult to imagine him at #10. This move could indicate that we are thinking of shifting to 433 with Wilson in the middle with perhaps Rooney continuing up front. It could also mean that at some point in the season we think about deploying a team without a traditional striker and more relying on a fluid interchanging 3/4 players to unlock teams. If nothing else between Wilson and Rooney we might not need to score from open play anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Sparkle said: Liverpool are looking for £1 million plus - make of that what you want! If that's anywhere near the mark, if you were a Swansea fan you'd be wondering, given their financial status, why on earth spend the £1m to further strengthen their squad. It doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, dcfcreece1601 said: Agreed although Wilson is quality, a striker is more important and I feel like we would still struggle for goals having injury prone strikers not fit but 17 wingers to fit in ? Zoon on near £1 million a year so just offer Pool £1 million for one year loan for Harry and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Wolfie20 said: If that's anywhere near the mark, if you were a Swansea fan you'd be wondering, given their financial status, why on earth spend the £1m to further strengthen their squad. It doesn't make sense. They haven’t got the money ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rampage Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Wolfie20 said: If that's anywhere near the mark, if you were a Swansea fan you'd be wondering, given their financial status, why on earth spend the £1m to further strengthen their squad. It doesn't make sense. Rams would be worth watching and be the fastest team in Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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