desirelines Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Ryan Conway was asked this question on his Derby Digest yesterday. He said that he'd be surprised if that was the case as he's regularly been told how much the players (and more importantly) the hierarchy respect and appreciate Cocu for how he dealt with the off-field issues last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 3 minutes ago, LazloW said: I doubt very much you needed a poll to gauge what fans were thinking about the situation because its self-evident from the other threads on a similar subject. Brings it all together, is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 14 minutes ago, nottingram said: I’m not sure I follow your train of thought? And so WE will be able to sack Cocu? It's a discussion, we have no power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I've heard that he's slept with Chris Martin. Wait, what's the question again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mostyn6 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, desirelines said: Ryan Conway was asked this question on his Derby Digest yesterday. He said that he'd be surprised if that was the case as he's regularly been told how much the players (and more importantly) the hierarchy respect and appreciate Cocu for how he dealt with the off-field issues last season. that's a nice sentiment, but decent crisis management doesn't equate to being a good football manager. Cocu needs to get his team to show it on the pitch before it counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 35 minutes ago, DarkFruitsRam7 said: How can anyone vote ‘yes’ with any degree of uncertainty? Do you all take it in turns to be Rammy or something? Certainty! I mean certainty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramslad1992 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Had a busy day with the wife and kids... only just catching up on the forum, nice to know it’s where I left it yesterday ? for the record I voted no... like I said Ona different thread, you don’t win league titles (empathise on the TITLES) without being a good manager. You could argue someone can fluke one but not 3... some people on this forum must be borderline sadists. I honestly believe there are people who are on this forum who aren’t happy unless they have something to be miserable about! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Just now, RoyMac5 said: And so WE will be able to sack Cocu? It's a discussion, we have no power. Right I see. No clearly not. But not hard to imagine a situation where this gets onto Twitter and then you have people tweeting at Duane Holmes or whoever who then may feel the need to justify his or the managers position. Just don’t think it’s helpful or constructive because no one knows the answer. Is it a useful question because if people were being honest you would just have everyone saying “I don’t know.” Or we have a forum full of professional psychologists and mind readers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 7 minutes ago, desirelines said: Ryan Conway was asked this question on his Derby Digest yesterday. He said that he'd be surprised if that was the case as he's regularly been told how much the players (and more importantly) the hierarchy respect and appreciate Cocu for how he dealt with the off-field issues last season. Hope this is still the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alph Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 I'm not sure. I think either the team will lose faith in what he's asking them to do or they can't do what he's asking them to do and so will continue to struggle The first would be him losing the belief and the second would be more like them losing confidence and motivation maybe. It can be rescued by results like faith in any position in any job. So yeah, I'm not sure. I know Cocu needs to adapt because if players can't or won't then it's easier to get rid of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, SK47 said: Clarke would of definitely reduced our vulnerability yesterday. I would of either played 3 at the back with probably Rooney up top with Marriott, basically anything that isnt Marriott up top on his own, it doesn't work. But I do reckon Cocu will be gone if he loses the next game... i mean the worst start in over 22 years is a pretty hideous achievement. 28 years get it right! But interestingly that was the team that bottled automatic promotion the previous season and got done by big spending Blackburn who won the premier league a couple of years later. Think we still finished 9th if memory serves me correct although that was an underachievement with that squad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minesahartington Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Coconut said: ...which makes me a spanner, but alas... you're still a spammer. Even if I mangled the figures somewhat, you're still obsessively posting the same diatribe about Martin's contract on nearly every thread you comment on. It won’t be as high as Charlie Austins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkFruitsRam7 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 12 minutes ago, nottingram said: Just don’t think it’s helpful or constructive because no one knows the answer. Is it a useful question because if people were being honest you would just have everyone saying “I don’t know.” Or we have a forum full of professional psychologists and mind readers This. Every single response should be "I don't know", unless any of the respondents are actual players or genuinely ITK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gccrowdpleaser Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Keeper, right back, centre back and left winger all just signed for him. 4 starters given a regular run by him. Wisdom.who he brought back from obscurity. Rooney who has come to learn management from him. Marriott who is being given a chance to prove himself. Talk of losing a dressing room is worthy of infantile Sun journalism. Bad start to the season. We've had plenty of good ones and we're still in this league. Much rather we started slow and addressed squad issues than papered over cracks and get lucky. Nobody should want to go up this season. Build. Grow. Shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 11 minutes ago, kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong said: Seems a bit bizarre for some to be having a crack at the op for asking the question that many are privately thinking,isn't that one of the points of the forum,to encourage discussion? Be a bit dull otherwise and it's not as if there isn't a lot to mull over at the moment....no point everyone just looking away and ignoring the issues at hand. I don't think that it will effect Mel's decisions either way,I suspect he's got his own mind and views on the matter. It is a tiresome football cliche though. You see it peddled on this forum everytime the team goes on a bad run. According to some every manager since Clough had misplaced the sacred dressing room. Just another thread pursuing an agenda. I would be more disappointed in these players if they downed tools rather than Cocu. In a post a season or so back, I said one major problem this club and to some extent fan base have is that we do not put the responsibility on the players. We sacrifice manager after manager and the same old crap rears its head. The manager who needs time to fix it, never gets it. Since Nigel we are seemingly stuck in a loop and stirring like this just takes us back to another ride on the merry go round. Playing for Derby is a nice cushy number, and sadly Rooney currently embodies this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScamRam Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Voted No. Stupid question after 3 games. Didnt us and Southampton both win first 4 games on the trot under Nigel Clough a few years ago and .. and.. yeah Southampton went up and we didnt. Aug 2003 Ravenelli's Derby 3 Reading 0. No promotion. Good start/ bad start meh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, RoyMac5 said: It will play itself out. I was interested in what others thought. Is that a problem for you? Constantly calling Cocu is boring. Starting rubbish like this is boring. You've asked what people think, well I think it is a boring topic. Is that a problem for you? ?♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 27, 2020 Author Share Posted September 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, rynny said: Constantly calling Cocu is boring. Starting rubbish like this is boring. You've asked what people think, well I think it is a boring topic. Is that a problem for you? ?♂️ It's so boring you have to keep commenting? ? Edit: only 34% think Cocu hasn't lost the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Abu Derby Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Surely he hasn’t lost it? He must know that it’s directly underneath the West stand. There’s enough signage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfie20 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 13 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: It's so boring you have to keep commenting? ? Edit: only 27% think Cocu has lost the dressing room. FTFY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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