SaintRam Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Van Wolfie said: Actually of course thinking about it, there is the third option: This Deal; No Deal or Revoke A50 Fire Parliament into the sun? Nuke ourselves? Turn off the power grid? LOADS of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BondJovi Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, SaintRam said: Fire Parliament into the sun? Nuke ourselves? Turn off the power grid? LOADS of options. Will take the top one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, SchtivePesley said: You've already told me several times that I'm wrong, so I've got better things to than prise open closed minds. Let's just agree to disagree eh? Why? I'm more than open to changing my mind if you can qualify what you have told me with some evidence that backs it up? I'm just confused how losing 18 seats displays Corbyn striking a blow against the Conservatives? Happy for you to explain it and change my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 As part of the brexit agreement, it appears that more control will be given to the assembly at Stormont to solve the NI problem. Thus giving more power to the Sinn Fein party and contol of NI's future and closer ties with the rest of Ireland. So could we see something they said would never happen and have the Sinn Fein MP's finally taking their seats in the Commons, to help vote the brexit deal through Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteHorseRam Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, 1of4 said: As part of the brexit agreement, it appears that more control will be given to the assembly at Stormont to solve the NI problem. Thus giving more power to the Sinn Fein party and contol of NI's future and closer ties with the rest of Ireland. So could we see something they said would never happen and have the Sinn Fein MP's finally taking their seats in the Commons, to help vote the brexit deal through Parliament. Interesting idea, but nope. They don't play to make their point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stive Pesley Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 27 minutes ago, WhiteHorseRam said: Interesting idea, but nope. They don't play to make their point. Nor swear allegiance to the Queen I wouldn't think! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 14/10/2019 at 21:29, Van Wolfie said: Sorry. I was looking for a “trumpton” gif, saw this and am crying? The song to play along the gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1of4 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The DUP don't appear to keen on the new deal. I wonder what sort of bribe the tories will need to offer the DUP this time, to get their ten votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Red_Dawn said: I will say there are aspects of Johnsons deal that I, as a leave, wont like. The defence giveaways in particular. But like the majority of this country I just want this to be bought to a conclusion. I'll read the finer details before nailing my flag, but I think he's bought back a winner here. Fair play to him. Dawnie, the answer is obvious. the Uk must match across the channel and draw the border of the UK customs union around the outside of the EU27. some may call in invasion and war, I call it pragmatic customs alignment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Corbyn - hoped for a deal not to be concluded. Vote of no confidence to head an emergency government and go for a second referendum. Boris - Achieves a deal, that he probably doesn't want. Will make parliament vote it down and then go for a no deal. EU - Gambled on parliament taking the deal. May end up with no deal. Interesting either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Out of interest have any of the politicians who don't agree with the deal laid out 'in detail ' what the deal should be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 19 minutes ago, Paul71 said: Out of interest have any of the politicians who don't agree with the deal laid out 'in detail ' what the deal should be? What and give the game away that what they actually want is for Brexit to be cancelled? Only Jo Swinson has actually had the balls to say it I think. As much as I disagree with her at least she has had the honesty to lay her intentions out rather than hide behind the charade of a 'peoples vote' or 'confirmatory referendum'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, G STAR RAM said: What and give the game away that what they actually want is for Brexit to be cancelled? Only Jo Swinson has actually had the balls to say it I think. As much as I disagree with her at least she has had the honesty to lay her intentions out rather than hide behind the charade of a 'peoples vote' or 'confirmatory referendum'. Aye, Corbyn costs us millions a day with his poo opposition, his problems with helping any form of negotiations and leaving us with no cards on the table to try and get a deal with. And all the extensions. Wonder what the total cost of Corbyn's poor leadership of the opposition has cost us. Like you say, Swinson has said it. I disagree completely with her, but at least I know what her and her party stands for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norman Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 https://fullfact.org/europe/brexit-extension-1-billion/ Looks like it totals 750 million a month. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 This deal looks like it won't pass. Tusk has hinted that the EU might grant another extension. Is Boris going to have to ask for it? And if he does will that be a huge blow to his hopes in the next election, whenever that is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EtoileSportiveDeDerby Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, 1of4 said: The DUP don't appear to keen on the new deal. I wonder what sort of bribe the tories will need to offer the DUP this time, to get their ten votes. Yeah man, DUP dudes don't do duff deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highgate Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, 1of4 said: The DUP don't appear to keen on the new deal. I wonder what sort of bribe the tories will need to offer the DUP this time, to get their ten votes. I don't think they'll accept a bribe on something they believe will weaken the Union. Maintaining the union between GB and NI is their raison d'être. And it would be suicide for them at the polls. Accepting a bribe to prop up the Tories was a different proposition altogether. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ketteringram Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 What would be the point of an extension? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ariotofmyown Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 What a funking shambles this Brexit has turned out to be. Did no one think of raising the Irish border problems during the referendum? Did the Leave people not mention it on purpose? Were Remain so complacent they didn't bother? Does anyone still want this farce to continue? Maybe the 2nd referendum should just be in Northern Ireland?Do you want to be part of an United Ireland and in the EU? Or part of UK and not in the EU? Scotland can have the same referendum question for independence. Wales will probably want the same then too, and England can turn into a fully inward looking irrelevance so we can pretend it's like the good old 1950s again: food supplies rationed, openly racist politicians, kids allowed to roam the streets late at night cos we pretend paedos don't exist, no abortions especially for rape victims. Might be time now to get those Irish passports for me and the kids sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G STAR RAM Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said: What a funking shambles this Brexit has turned out to be. Did no one think of raising the Irish border problems during the referendum? Did the Leave people not mention it on purpose? Were Remain so complacent they didn't bother? Does anyone still want this farce to continue? Maybe the 2nd referendum should just be in Northern Ireland?Do you want to be part of an United Ireland and in the EU? Or part of UK and not in the EU? Scotland can have the same referendum question for independence. Wales will probably want the same then too, and England can turn into a fully inward looking irrelevance so we can pretend it's like the good old 1950s again: food supplies rationed, openly racist politicians, kids allowed to roam the streets late at night cos we pretend paedos don't exist, no abortions especially for rape victims. Might be time now to get those Irish passports for me and the kids sorted out. No not particularly, wanted it done on 31st March. If it wasnt for the whinging remoaners we would be out by now and would probably have had our trade deal with the EU sorted. Think you need to have a word with Merkel, she certainly doesnt expect a post Brexit UK to turn out how you are expecting it to, sure your words will save her a lot of worry! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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