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I've had a pint and I'm in no state to argue tonight, but just wanted to say how much I enjoy the debate on here.

That's not just the backup I get from the likes of @GboroRam @ariotofmyown @McRamFan @Highgate et al

but also those who I continually disagree with but tolerate my rambling @G STAR RAM @Norman @Uptherams et al - your constant challenging of what I think is what makes it worth bothering with

And also thanks to @David for giving us the chance to play nice

We're all Rams innit? Let's hope this messed up country sorts it's crisp-ridden fridge out soon x

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34 minutes ago, Montgolfier said:

I wouldn't say that, but a 'friend' told me on Facebook tonight that he thinks that there will now be "gorilla warfare".

I've just clarified it with him. Apparently it was a clever pun about bendy bananas.

So clever, I never spotted it, but that's nothing new.

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10 hours ago, i-Ram said:

It amuses me that a good number of the Socialists on here seem to keep sniping at leavers as being thick or racist, where a high majority of leavers are poor or from the ‘working classes’. You would think they might be a bit more supportive, but perhaps all that Champagne gives them muddled thinking.

Hey i voted remain.. And champagne doesn't make my thinking muddled.

It does leave me feeling squeaky clean mind when i bathe in it.

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33 minutes ago, McRamFan said:

Do you want to summarise what you think this proves?

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41 minutes ago, Brummie Steve said:

If I could turn back the clock to 1975 I would still vote to be in a common Market which is all we voted on.

In 2016 those (like me) who voted leave wanted out of the EU which was a totally different thing.

Ruled from Brussels and Strasbourg and giving up our last vestiges of autonomy? No way!

And if the EU had offered some sort of deal along these lines I think most would accept it.

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2 hours ago, Brummie Steve said:

If I could turn back the clock to 1975 I would still vote to be in a common Market which is all we voted on.

In 2016 those (like me) who voted leave wanted out of the EU which was a totally different thing.

Ruled from Brussels and Strasbourg and giving up our last vestiges of autonomy? No way!

Be careful now.  Having voted leave it's seems most posters on this topic expect you drink your own piss and read Jack and Jill books.  Don't use big words, you'll confuse them and ruin the illusion.

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2 hours ago, Brummie Steve said:

If I could turn back the clock to 1975 I would still vote to be in a common Market which is all we voted on.

In 2016 those (like me) who voted leave wanted out of the EU which was a totally different thing.

Ruled from Brussels and Strasbourg and giving up our last vestiges of autonomy? No way!

From the 1975 pamphlet, the referendum was never solely about joining a "common market" solely about trade. 

The aims of the Common Market are:

To bring together the peoples of Europe.

To raise living standards and improve working conditions.

To promote growth and boost world trade.

To help the poorest regions of Europe and the rest of the world.

To help maintain peace and freedom

http://www.harvard-digital.co.uk/euro/pamphlet.htm

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12 minutes ago, GboroRam said:

From the 1975 pamphlet, the referendum was never solely about joining a "common market" solely about trade.

But it was originally just about trade though, 

'What began as a purely economic union has evolved into an organization spanning policy areas, from climate, environment and health to external relations and security, justice and migration. A name change from the European Economic Community (EEC) to the European Union (EU) in 1993 reflected this'

https://europa.eu/european-union/about-eu/eu-in-brief_en

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