RamLad1884 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 What an absolute load of rubbish, FA seems to make it up as they go along to be honest. If both players and managers come out and say there was no bite then why bother? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 No issue with Johnsons ban, total issue with lack of action against Allen, only assumption is corruption involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobram Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Why does Allen pick on the biggest guys in the pitch. First Deeney who nearly ripped his head off and the Johnson who bit his shoulder off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Miss 3 games for a potential career ending challenge, but 5 games for biting a shirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofmidnight Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Makes me lose faith in the FA RD. It seems harsh as neither Allen or Rowett wanted to pursue it. It would have been fairer to ban both players. It seems as it's seen on Sky that's it a ban but if you are sneaky you get away with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Definitely not a bite, the FA have gone overboard for no reason. If it had been a bite Allen and Rowett would be screaming for justice - Joe Allen actually grabs Johnson from behind in a headlock, another example of Derby losing out to a bad decision, what a crock of----! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coneheadjohn Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I wish he’d pushed the ref over for an extra 5 matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestKentRam Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Tough justice for Johnson. 4 game ban for getting his teeth stuck in a loose thread on Allen's shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 Hmmm... I wonder if Allen & Rowett can be charged with The FA's version of "attempting to pervert the course of justice", seeing as they've blatantly lied about there being no bite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nottingram Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 I can’t quite believe just how ridiculous this is. When people complain about pundits in the studio highlighting stuff just to cause controversy I’ve often thought it was nonsense, basically. I thought the FA were competent enough to pick things up themselves. But this is exactly what has happened here, there is absolutely not enough evidence for him to have been banned based on the Sky footage shown, but their pissy pants act at half time has managed to cause enough traction to panic the spineless FA into doing something. Let alone considering Allen says it didn’t happen and Johnson walks off the pitch with a hickey. Absolutely ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnieronalde Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Etebo challenge was a disgrace and deserves just as big a ban as Johnson received (if not two games more). Until the FA clamps down on challenges as much as they do somebody swearing or calling someone a name players will keep doing it and keep getting away with it. Allen's reaction was a disgrace, he must have seen what his mate did and you don't defend things like that, even if your own team mate did it. As a player you know what he's done, you can't defend it. I also saw the mark on Bradley's neck which I assume has either come from a girly scratch or another bite. How Allen has got away with it I don't know. The ref should have sent all three of them off in the same incident. He saw everything. Johnson's reaction is so out of order it's not true. He's got away with it lightly. I don't care if it's "only his shirt" - highly unlikely. What kind of person thinks biting in those, in fact ANY circumstances is any kind of natural, normal reaction. Outside of the horrible cowardly challenges you occasionally see, it's the lowest of the low, spitting in someone's face is the only thing that even comes close to that kind of disgusting behaviour on the pitch. You're any kind of decent person, you just don't do it. If it's a player of any other club everyone would be rightfully hammering the bloke who did it. Sky are shithouses who "police" the game by camera but do you really think it's an attack on Derby? Any player at any club does that and gets caught and Sky would be doing exactly the same thing. Some things are indefensible. This is one of those instances I'm afraid. What the hell was he thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The Club’s official statement on the ban includes: “Derby County does not expect, nor condone, any of its players to behave in the manner witnessed in the incident on Wednesday evening. The club will be conducting its own internal disciplinary hearing in relation to the matter and as such will make no further comment.” That may be a perfectly measured initial response, but I would expect if they thought there was a case to defend Johnson here it would have been made a bit more emphatically yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, ronnieronalde said: ... What the hell was he thinking? I'm not convinced there was a whole lot of "thinking" going on at that stage! It was purely "reactionary"... and no, I'm not defending such a reaction. Many years ago, (schooldays) I too was held in a vice-like headlock, albeit at waist height. With only one hand/arm free to use productively, and a pair of betrousered testicles within close proximity, I reacted in a way that seemed perfectly natural at the time, and grabbed them with all the might I could muster! OK, I took some stick for not fighting fair... for fighting like a girl... but my voice was still a lot deeper than his for a good few weeks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 The whole thing was caused by a diabolical tackle on Richard Keogh . Enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnieronalde Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Curtains said: The whole thing was caused by a diabolical tackle on Richard Keogh . Enough said. it's not enough said Curtains. Whatever/whoever started it. You can't condone or defend it, surely? What Allen should have done is go and grab his mate who made the challenge. Push him away, tell him what a poo thing he's just done. Be angry with him. If he does that, the Derby lads don't need to. If I'm captain and one of my team mates does that, it wouldn't take Bradley Johnson to come storming over, I'd be the first one there. Protecting him but making it very clear he was a twit. What Joe Allen did was wrong. He should have been sent off. Bradley has broken a rule that everyone in any professional sport knows. You don't bite. You can't ever bite. You only need to look at the uproar and outrage caused by every other biting incident in sport the world over. Four games? Five games? Not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, ronnieronalde said: it's not enough said Curtains. Whatever/whoever started it. You can't condone or defend it, surely? What Allen should have done is go and grab his mate who made the challenge. Push him away, tell him what a poo thing he's just done. Be angry with him. If he does that, the Derby lads don't need to. If I'm captain and one of my team mates does that, it wouldn't take Bradley Johnson to come storming over, I'd be the first one there. Protecting him but making it very clear he was a twit. What Joe Allen did was wrong. He should have been sent off. Bradley has broken a rule that everyone in any professional sport knows. You don't bite. You can't ever bite. You only need to look at the uproar and outrage caused by every other biting incident in sport the world over. Four games? Five games? Not enough. Watch Johnson ask Allen what was you doing afterwards . Allen clearly runs and grabs Johnson around the neck and Johnson is caught unawares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spanish Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: I'm not convinced there was a whole lot of "thinking" going on at that stage! It was purely "reactionary"... and no, I'm not defending such a reaction. Many years ago, (schooldays) I too was held in a vice-like headlock, albeit at waist height. With only one hand/arm free to use productively, and a pair of betrousered testicles within close proximity, I reacted in a way that seemed perfectly natural at the time, and grabbed them with all the might I could muster! OK, I took some stick for not fighting fair... for fighting like a girl... but my voice was still a lot deeper than his for a good few weeks! Similar story, some random idiot attacked me in the same way out in Derby, the only choice we’ll at least quickest was to grab him by the hair which produced the required response. All he could say was that I fought like a girl. i am staggered how many fans want to jump on the ban BJ wagon. It was an unprovoked assault by a coward, who has got away with it. I suppose all these critics would in a similar situation not react and have a good discussion with the attacker until they worked out their differences. Once again we are harshly and unfairly treated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 It’s undeniable Johnson ‘bit’ Allen/shirt. Whether Johnson did it out of anger or as a natural clenching of the teeth to escape the headlock is the only question I think can be asked. Unfortunately, the statement from the club suggests the former ☹️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 i want to know why Allen isn’t charged by the FA also and why is that challenge by Etebo not more than 3 game ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 every time i see it...ref wanted to play on after that challenge on keogh..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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