Philmycock Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 53 minutes ago, dcfcrams said: https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/fulham-and-derbys-chris-martin-transfer-tussle-highlights-ugly-side-of-promotion-race-111441533.html 'McClaren, since coming in, has acted in an infantile manner. Never mind legally-binding contracts. Never mind an agreement which was only likely to last temporarily once McClaren rejoined Derby.' 'Another manager might have agreed the extension and announced it post-season, but not this gaffer. It’s also highly improbable that he hasn’t been chatting to Martin about it – after all, the discontent only began after the 2-2 draw between the sides in mid-December. Fulham have insisted that the striker will remain with them until the end of the season. Martin’s parent club has acted deplorably – it takes some doing to come out of a transfer saga like this looking a lot less dignified than the subject footballer' Not great reading from our point of view. Infantile journalism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, dcfcrams said: https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/fulham-and-derbys-chris-martin-transfer-tussle-highlights-ugly-side-of-promotion-race-111441533.html 'McClaren, since coming in, has acted in an infantile manner. Never mind legally-binding contracts. Never mind an agreement which was only likely to last temporarily once McClaren rejoined Derby.' 'Another manager might have agreed the extension and announced it post-season, but not this gaffer. It’s also highly improbable that he hasn’t been chatting to Martin about it – after all, the discontent only began after the 2-2 draw between the sides in mid-December. Fulham have insisted that the striker will remain with them until the end of the season. Martin’s parent club has acted deplorably – it takes some doing to come out of a transfer saga like this looking a lot less dignified than the subject footballer' Not great reading from our point of view. Do you really care what a 2 bit journalist writes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 58 minutes ago, cheron85 said: McClaren: "We'd quite like Chrissy Martin back" Martin: "I'd quite like to go back" Fulham: "Actually we'd rather keep him for now thanks" Journos: *frothing at the mouth, eyes glazed, semi-coherent shoutings* WAAAARRRRR!!! WAAAARRRRRR!!!! W£$%%$£$% Haha. There is a bit of journalistic licence taken...but your version is equally disingenuous. In Fulham's place I'd feel much stronger than I'd 'rather keep him'. There was also then a threat/whiff of 'I'm not going to play if I don't get my way' that seems to have bwen considered then thought better of. Not ideal and one of those situations. Not always going possible for everyone to be happy and we probably overstepped best practice. It's not 'war' but it IS business...and some time '**** happens'. Don't think we should deny that, I'm just pleased we're the giver rather than the taker for a change ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PodgeyRam Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 28 minutes ago, philmycock said: Infantile journalism It's not even journalism. It's opinion mascarading as journalism. If I showed that to an editor he'd tell me to f*** off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 12 minutes ago, PodgeyRam said: It's not even journalism. It's opinion mascarading as journalism. If I showed that to an editor he'd tell me to f*** off. Can't stand self important opinion pieces like that. I get it when an expert chips in with their informed view and explains the inner workings of a situation and perhaps how they'd approach the whole process themselves. When it's just Joe Nobody sticking their oar in, it holds no more weight than the opinion of your average bloke spouting crap about the team in the bogs at half time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 6 minutes ago, Tombo said: Can't stand self important opinion pieces like that. I get it when an expert chips in with their informed view and explains the inner workings of a situation and perhaps how they'd approach the whole process themselves. When it's just Joe Nobody sticking their oar in, it holds no more weight than the opinion of your average bloke spouting crap about the team in the bogs at half time He's not Joe Nobody, he's done work experience at the local West London paper, and had even been paid for his articles on some occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
True Ram Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 I hope Chrissy as got his bags packed ( hopefully ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richinspain Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 12 hours ago, Tombo said: Can't stand self important opinion pieces like that. I get it when an expert chips in with their informed view and explains the inner workings of a situation and perhaps how they'd approach the whole process themselves. When it's just Joe Nobody sticking their oar in, it holds no more weight than the opinion of your average bloke spouting crap about the team in the bogs at half time 12 hours ago, reveldevil said: He's not Joe Nobody, he's done work experience at the local West London paper, and had even been paid for his articles on some occasions. Plus the average bloke spouting crap in the bogs doesn't get "printed" on the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibby Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 He loves Derby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Ram Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, Ibby said: He loves Derby Thanks for that.. Insightful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 15 hours ago, dcfcrams said: https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/news/fulham-and-derbys-chris-martin-transfer-tussle-highlights-ugly-side-of-promotion-race-111441533.html 'McClaren, since coming in, has acted in an infantile manner. Never mind legally-binding contracts. Never mind an agreement which was only likely to last temporarily once McClaren rejoined Derby.' 'Another manager might have agreed the extension and announced it post-season, but not this gaffer. It’s also highly improbable that he hasn’t been chatting to Martin about it – after all, the discontent only began after the 2-2 draw between the sides in mid-December. Fulham have insisted that the striker will remain with them until the end of the season. Martin’s parent club has acted deplorably – it takes some doing to come out of a transfer saga like this looking a lot less dignified than the subject footballer' Not great reading from our point of view. Hes obviously a Fulham fan. I still don't se any evidence to suggest Derby have acted poorly, or even Mclaren. What is wrong with a manager stating he wishes he could have the player back? There is no proof whatsoever to state Mclaren and Martin have been having conversations, The only person who possibly comes out of this badly is Martin with his refusal to play at the start of January, we cant argue with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 24 minutes ago, Paul71 said: The only person who possibly comes out of this badly is Martin with his refusal to play at the start of January, we cant argue with that. I believe he was injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parsnip Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Today's the day! Someone bake a load of pies he's coming home and he'll be hungry! We need to get him back up to his fighting weight before match day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sith Happens Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 7 minutes ago, rynny said: I believe he was injured. Ha yeah and I believe in Unicorns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rynny Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 2 minutes ago, Paul71 said: Ha yeah and I believe in Unicorns. Only the ones that poop rainbows... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 22 minutes ago, Paul71 said: Ha yeah and I believe in Unicorns. Well, SJ did say (eventually) he never refused to play...not saying it's entirely gospel but that was the last line we heard about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 1 hour ago, Paul71 said: The only person who possibly comes out of this badly is Martin with his refusal to play at the start of January, we cant argue with that. 37 minutes ago, rynny said: I believe he was injured. Jokanovich believes that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tombo Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 3 hours ago, richinspain said: Plus the average bloke spouting crap in the bogs doesn't get "printed" on the internet They do when they make an account on dcfcfans I haven't introduced myself have I? Hi, bloke from the bogs here, nice to meet you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bwash_Ram Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Fulham being linked with Karamanos, could be a positive sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted January 31, 2017 Share Posted January 31, 2017 Just to Pop something into people's minds, Martin could return to Derby at any point for the remainder of his loan at Fulham if they choose to cancel it and we accept, just putting it out there! And yes he could play for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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