SaintRam Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 54 minutes ago, ThePrisoner said: I'm quite suprised he's allowed to return to play for us in the play-offs if we make it. Good piece of business in the original contract to help us in those final moments? Not that I think he should start for us, the team who got us there should absolutely take priority and hopefully will. I don't think it's in the contract, as the contract also has an agreed fee. Just doesn't make any sense for Fulham to hold onto him if their season is over and ours isn't. If their season doesn't end after the 46th game they'll keep hold of him until after the play-offs. I think a lot of Fulham fans are massively overreacting to this, I don't think Martin is going to be going out in a Fulham shirt with a view to do Derby a favour. Obviously, it gets a little more concerning from their point of view if Derby and Fulham are close rivals at the tail end of the season as he's committed his future to us, but in that situation I'd hope Martin chose the professional path. I'd respect him greatly if he scored the goal that got Fulham in the play-offs at the expense of us, for example. Although I imagine lots of people on here would choose to be angry and upset with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanRam Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 5 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I don't think it's in the contract, as the contract also has an agreed fee. Just doesn't make any sense for Fulham to hold onto him if their season is over and ours isn't. If their season doesn't end after the 46th game they'll keep hold of him until after the play-offs. I think a lot of Fulham fans are massively overreacting to this, I don't think Martin is going to be going out in a Fulham shirt with a view to do Derby a favour. Obviously, it gets a little more concerning from their point of view if Derby and Fulham are close rivals at the tail end of the season as he's committed his future to us, but in that situation I'd hope Martin chose the professional path. I'd respect him greatly if he scored the goal that got Fulham in the play-offs at the expense of us, for example. Although I imagine lots of people on here would choose to be angry and upset with him. Yes, it's the Fulham fans that are massively overreacting to this (he says, posting on the 75th page). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRam Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, VulcanRam said: Yes, it's the Fulham fans that are massively overreacting to this (he says, posting on the 75th page). I thought Derby fans overreaction was obvious, but it's also a situation worthy of discussion. I wasn't citing Fulham's discussion of the topic, I was more citing Fulham booing a player in their shirt whenever he touched the ball. Until he scored, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaRam Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 13 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I thought Derby fans overreaction was obvious, but it's also a situation worthy of discussion. I wasn't citing Fulham's discussion of the topic, I was more citing Fulham booing a player in their shirt whenever he touched the ball. Until he scored, obviously. A lot of derby fans did that most games under Pearson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GboroRam Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 30 minutes ago, EastHertsRam said: Who's doing that ? I'm not, if we can agree with Fulham to get him back tomorrow, happy days, if Fulham say nothing doing, we wait until the season's end without complaint. Then if he does he's not a man of his word and he can do one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearl Ram Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Just now, GboroRam said: Then if he does he's not a man of his word and he can do one Are you curtains in disguise ? That comment, as clearly stated, was in respect of Martin's statement bigging up both the club and the city. It was also made in response to a hypothetical question posted by curtains asking what if Martin changed his mind and declares he would like to sign for Fulham after all on a permanent basis after signing his contract with us at the weekend. You seem to be trying to find something that isn't there, give it up before the rest of the forum die of boredom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuckoBeast Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 In the Telegraph it says they may be another twist ? Clutching and all that .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 Having missed most of this thread... I'll ask something which has probably already been asked... Anyone ITK know about the payments rumoured to be owed at the end of this window? Supposedly the next payment of loan fee is due on Wednesday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 8 minutes ago, cheron85 said: Having missed most of this thread... I'll ask something which has probably already been asked... Anyone ITK know about the payments rumoured to be owed at the end of this window? Supposedly the next payment of loan fee is due on Wednesday... I heard £1.5m due at the end of this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, BuckoBeast said: In the Telegraph it says they may be another twist ? Clutching and all that .... Which Telegraph, the real newspaper or the Derby one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheron85 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, ollycutts1982 said: I heard £1.5m due at the end of this window. So further to that then I guess... Any rumours of Fulham being in for a striker and needing the money? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, EastHertsRam said: Are you curtains in disguise ? That comment, as clearly stated, was in respect of Martin's statement bigging up both the club and the city. It was also made in response to a hypothetical question posted by curtains asking what if Martin changed his mind and declares he would like to sign for Fulham after all on a permanent basis after signing his contract with us at the weekend. You seem to be trying to find something that isn't there, give it up before the rest of the forum die of boredom. You really don't get it do you he could still sign for Fulham as they have the option on him and they may make him an offer he can't refuse come August. ie Better than Derbys offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BathRam72 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 10 hours ago, curtains said: I'm not pressing the panic button as I'm more indifferent now after today about the situation with Martin . It is true I was delighted yesterday when he signed an extended contract at Derby but I never for the life of me thought he would turn out for Fulham again and look like he was enjoying it. Call me naive or what . Maybe he is just happy there is light at the end of the tunnel and having pledged his future to Derby, he now knows where he is going. I think I would be happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollycutts1982 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, cheron85 said: So further to that then I guess... Any rumours of Fulham being in for a striker and needing the money? It wouldn't surprise me if they had said to Chris play until we get someone in and then you can return to Derby, I can see the signing someone before the close of the window and sending him back. On the other hand I can also see them keeping him until the summer, prices in Jan are inflated so they may think £1.5m for a striker who is already there and scoring isn't too bad a deal. It will be an interesting 48hours either way. I am hoping they sign someone, they have been linked with £9m for Rhodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Curtains Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: Maybe he is just happy there is light at the end of the tunnel and having pledged his future to Derby, he now knows where he is going. I think I would be happy Does he. He has the best of both worlds now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BathRam72 Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, curtains said: Does he. He has the best of both worlds now. Maybe. Either way he has done us a favour. Surely his price has gone up due to signing a new deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 2 minutes ago, BathRam72 said: Maybe. Either way he has done us a favour. Surely his price has gone up due to signing a new deal. Maybe they will have to pay what they stipulated in the loan contract / permanent deal option. Then it's all about wages and contract terms as it always is in transfers . End if the day it's what Chris Martin decides now as regards the best deal for him . Either Derby or Fulham in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 7 minutes ago, SaintRam said: I thought Derby fans overreaction was obvious, but it's also a situation worthy of discussion. I wasn't citing Fulham's discussion of the topic, I was more citing Fulham booing a player in their shirt whenever he touched the ball. Until he scored, obviously. Fulham's over reaction (like ours) is because how SJ and their local press angled the story from day 1, basically saying things like 'Martin has refused to play' something that then get debunked by SJ himself. But sadly the damage was already done. There are other examples where the West London Sport wrote headlines like 'BOARD BACK JOKANOVIC' when what actually happened was SJ just saying that but with no official quote from Fulham's board. The sad thing is, is that some of this has been taken as gospel (by Fulham AND for some reason, Derby fans) rather than giving it any analytical review. It's even given way for articles in the national about 'striking footballers' and made the mess a lot worse. Essentially it's exactly what they want too, even his comments about 'Derby's best striker' are there to cause unrest and people fall for it hook, line and sinker. Martin's commutes his long term future, now let's just see what happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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