Gisby

R McFarland
C Todd
B Rioch
K Hector 
C George
am I close? ?

R McFarland
C Todd
B Rioch
K Hector 
C George
am I close? ?

R McFarland
C Todd
B Rioch
K Hector 
C George
am I close? ?

I really wish this would just end and we can get back to some normality. I’m so bored of embargo’s, points deductions, takeovers, submission of accounts etc. 

I think if you look at Wayne’s career and the way he throws himself into clubs, he is genuinely concerned like the rest of us. From the comments on Roy Mac’s post, there is a person there who has a lot of respect for us as an institution and a club. 
 
I don’t think you can fault his commitment to the club, his problem has been the lack of an adequate squad. I still think we will have a mid table season (I may be slated for saying that), because he seems like a decent enough coach with some tactical nouse. I’m excited to see the way he gets our rabble playing. 
 
One thing I will say about this season is, let’s not go with a pre conceived negativity as fans. Let’s get behind the team, through the rough and the smooth and hopefully bring some energy and enthusiasm to a thread bare team. It’s not the players fault we are in this position, only their higher ups. 

It really is becoming a chore to be on here.... I'm obviously addicted as it goes against all my instincts to bother. Each time I log on I hope for a little positivity.. But alas no. Oh well, maybe next time. 

I spend a lot of time reading these pages but don't often contribute much so bear with me!
One thing I think we would all agree on is that the club is in a mess and we were very lucky to survive last season. I don't think there's anyone that thinks this season will be any easier. 
The EFL in my opinion clearly have an agenda to make this season as difficult as possible for Derby. We are certainly not shopping in the same stores that we used to, in terms of player recruitment and this can be seen by the out of contract players currently training with us.
Now this is where I think we as fans can make a difference. I am becoming more and more frustrated when I read negative comments, especially about players who haven't even kicked a ball yet. For example....
Jagielka was an established premier League defender and with some younger legs around him, COULD become a quality signing.
Ravel Morrison has bags of ability and MAY have matured. The highlight reels certainly show there is a player that has an awful lot to offer if his head's in the right place.
Tom Lawrence has definitely been inconsistent. He has also had a drink problem, lost his mum and suffered personal issues not to mention Joiner Gate! BUT....he has bags of ability and giving him the captaincy could just be the kick up the bum he needs. 
These examples could easily be turned from possible positives to negatives.
However I can tell you one thing that is absolutely guaranteed .....and that is that we have the best possible chance of success If we get fully behind the team, remain positive and come together against those trying to knock us down such as the EFL, some other clubs, managers and chairmen.
I'm sick to death of reading negative comments from some who seem to think that we're entitled to success or think it's fine to boo etc as they've 'paid their money '. 
We've been in the second flight for a long time now and in my opinion never closer to dropping down another level.
So would you rather be positive and effectively become the 12th Man or be negative and add to the problem? ...and by the way I don't mean moaning that we've not played well. That's part of football and being a supporter. I mean almost personal attacks on players, management and chairman.
Be interested to hear people's views but really feel that if we can create some positivity we may just scrape by this season and give us a chance to move on again in a year's time. ...waffle over!

 
 
 

You looking down on the unemployed?

TBF I think I was already the guilty party on that one!! Fair play to you for trying to bring things back from the edge ?

You know good business isn’t done on the hoof with a great big pot of cash ready to dip into whenever you want. There will have been plans, strategies, monies in place (that take time to assemble) and then bang .. along comes a pandemic that takes away 50% of your revenue. Plans need to be adjusted, money and the sources that it comes from need to be found. That is not easy for anyone.  I think you are fundamentally wrong in your assessment. No one doubts Mel has made errors, trusted the wrong people, been let down, had gambles that didn’t  come off … all true ….  but given that, whatever his motives, even if he was gambling on promotion pay day he has been putting around 12 million pounds a year for the last 5 years … just to cover the difference between income and expenditure (not including transfers and investments in the academy) He owned the stadium .. but bought it again as part of that.
It is a joke to say he isn’t committed but there comes a point when you need to look for help … not easy in this changed world. 

What assets do you think they will be buying if he club is put into liquidation?
I think if they are waiting for MM to put the club into liquidation they will be waiting a very long time...

Maybe some of us are fed up with the predictability of the jokes.

Just yesterday I read something I really liked, but I can't remember where but it's pertinent to this thread...
'Every saint has a past and every sinner a future.'  I'm not calling Captain Tom a sinner, but we've all done stupid things that come back to haunt us at about 3am. We can't change what we did in the past but we can make up for it in the future. Good luck, Tom! I'm so happy that so many on this thread are behind you.

Understand - and agree - with the principle, but sprinkle a little context in here and maybe Mel derserves a little more slack.  Times have changed even since his tenure began; EFL attitude & approach, the commercial perils of running an 'entertainment' business in these uncertain times to name a couple of mitigating factors.  Not offering excuses here, just saying it's never as 'black and white' (pardon the pun) as it may at first seem, imho.

You missed that another EFL club (Sheff Weds) didn't pay their players for 4 months and got what might be seen as a more lenient punishment. 

I am not in principle against this suspended sanction, and it just serves as a reminder to ensure we don't let it happen again.
However, I fail to see how it is fair for us to be deducted three points for a second breach, when Sheffield Wednesday have not been deducted any points for four consecutive breaches. Where is the consistency in that? 
I don't want to see SW being deducted points either, but this does seem to me like Derby being treated more harshly than another club.

ITV's football coverage is the worst on TV. The worst camera shots, the worst technical add-ons, the worst commentators and the dreaded adverts. At least this time they didn't manage to miss any of the England goals like they did in 2010.

I was thinking of a way to address the misleading narrative around us and the EFL that is making so many other fans dislike our club when actually they should be worried about when the EFL might come for them. So I wrote this article, if you like it and can be arsed we could put it on a few other fans sites.  I bet Mr Pop in Bristol would love it.
The Wrong Coloured Shorts (wixsite.com)
 

Not sue why folk are so concerned about older CBs to be honest. Pretty sure Chiellini and Bonucci are playing still at the absolute highest level and I reckon they must have a combined age of 70 plus. We could do a hell of a lot worse than having a coupe of battle-hardened old warriors like Curtis at the heart of our defence for a season.

Regardless of whether or not certain decisions were correct, it finished 2-1 in our favour and I am old enough and seen enough decent England teams fall short to not care one jot. Now let’s go and win it...

Denmark are ranked 10th in the World - above Germany, and will stay there by getting to the last 4 of this competition. You're never going to completely control a game against opponents of such quality. 
We were better than them. We dominated for large periods against a very good team. We should be proud of that performance. 

What we wouldn’t give for a Paul McGrath like figure, dodgy knees and all!!!!

What we wouldn’t give for a Paul McGrath like figure, dodgy knees and all!!!!

What we wouldn’t give for a Paul McGrath like figure, dodgy knees and all!!!!