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My thoughts are that this is an embarrassingly reactionary thread 2 games into a season. 

Are they going to include getting rid of chants about players breaking their legs for example? Hope so. 

Hope we sign Sharpe. He's a proven goal scorer and we need one. He was subjected to moronic, mindless and completely groundless abuse by some of our so called fans so he gave a bit back. Good for him. The fact that he's a professional footballer doesn't mean he should have to put up with any of that. The historical animosity is entirely the fault of Derby fans - can't see that Sharpe has done anything wrong at all.

Head of player recruitment.

Just to chime in here and say I like the idea of letting the players decide.
In fact, I would go as far as saying it's a great idea.
They are all professional footballers, most will have played in numerous teams under various captains.
They will know individually more than anyone what they want from their captain and vote accordingly.
As a fan, I couldn't care less who gets the armband, it's not going to affect my life in any way other than see them lead the team out the tunnel.
The captain announcement is on par with the squad numbers announcement. Just a formality. 

He is frustrated, but that’s the situation we’re in. He and the club are trying to find the right players, and seemingly are coming up against barriers and so rather than focusing on the problem as some of our fans are keen to do they’re looking at solutions. Of which the potential is some ageing but capable strikers and/or young loans we have to wait for. It’s circumstance, it’s not about blame, that’s just where we find ourselves.
Let’s say replacing McGoldrick’s goals is a maths problem. We need to find a way to replace those 25 goals. Let’s say your prediction for Washington is accurate and he scores 10. Now we’re looking to replace 15 goals. Sibley scored 6 in all competitions last season, a large % of his games played out of position. If he starts in a more advanced role could he score more? Lots of our fans say he can, let’s give him a bit of credit and say 3 more goals. Now we’re looking for 12 more. NML looked frightening at the front end of the season then burned out in the second half, we’ve got better options down that right side so he shouldn’t have to play rwb. He scored 7 league goals, let’s back him to score another 3 on top this season giving him a nice round 10 goals, now we need 9 more. Let’s say Waghorn signs and manages to shin a few in, 5 goals. Now we need 4 from the team. Joe Ward scored 7 last year for Peterborough, maybe he chips in with 3 goals….
That’s why I don’t see it as a “desperate situation”, people are keen to hang onto this notion that we haven’t replaced McGoldrick’s goals because we haven’t signed a like for like replacement. It is reasonable and realistic to see where there are goals within the current squad, we might not have the luxury of watching McGoldrick oozing class, but we’ll carry a threat throughout the season and still score goals in my opinion.
A desperate situation would be having little to no evidence of goals from anyone in the team, or an unproven youngster (Plange), a journeyman striker (Kazim), and one Tom Lawrence to call upon such as when the club was actually in a desperate situation under Rooney. 

Nope, not me. We’ve never argued.  But I bet you’re wrong and that the business plan allowed us to make a loss. Two reasons why I would conclude that. 1) because even the efl would recognise that it would be impossible for us to suddenly decrease our expenditure and remain competitive (given that our main outgoings are players wages) to such a degree that we make a profit, which is what you’re suggesting and 2) because the EFL’s own ffp rules explicitly allow clubs to make a loss year after year after year. The rules just try to limit the level of loss. It would be perverse - even for the efl - if they suddenly insisted that any business plan was predicated on us making a profit in our first year out of administration.
we have been prudent; we have probably exceeded our income targets/plans; we have managed our budgets and persuaded the EFL that we are no longer a financial basket case. But I bet our expenditure exceeds our income.

I know right? Weve only signed the captain of a championship promotion winning side, a former League two player of the year (only one season ago) a former League one team of the year full back, a championship centre half with over 300 games experience and championship striker with international experience .  
Fecking awful that for League One, diabolical!! 🙄🙄🙄

The negative posts on a possible Rhodes signing represent a tiny proportion of Rams fans - no way does Warne have to make any comment to defend his signings.

I am, often.

I am proud to say that i have been working with the club on these identity colours, there is going to be a lot more coming, the heritage of our club is something to celebrate, we are not just boring black and white and it is now coming back to the fore 😍🐏

Maybe and this is a big maybe, clowes  Warne and the recruitment team have come up with this never before heard of concept at Derby which is to get an under performing player on the cheap, improve them and make them a better player and then sell them on for a higher fee in a few years.
Sensational idea I know. Seems to go directly against our previous policies of drastically overpaying for a poor player in a purple patch of their career, hope and pray they maintain that purple patch, realise early on they wont as they are pretty poor, sell for a massive loss or loan out paying all their wages a year later, then rinse and repeat over and over again.
Strange times we live in. Almost as if we have some sort of plan now.

Different ends of the age spectrum and we knew david mcgoldrick was a very good footballer when we got him but Lets not forget david mgoldrick was hardly down as prolific when we signed him
warne made it so that he had his best goal
scoring season ever with us
how about we back the gaffer to work a bit more magic ? 

Being Welsh?

Far too many stats being banded about with too little context. A number on a page means nothing without a hundred other variables that can’t be factored in 

This player had a breakout season in league 1 after this run, followed by another big season, followed by a big transfer and eventually an England call up. 
 
I’d BET 👀 not many can guess who it is without the clues. 
 
 
Now obviously I don’t think this kid is the next IT or JCH or whichever other striker posh have bought in but it’s worth remembering that our fans longed for us to be the transfer before the big transfer. That means taking risks on young players. 
 
For a player to have a breakout season with us and be worth a few Bob they need to have been underwhelming before they come to us. 
 
As I say I’m not suggesting he’d be brilliant but a youngster having poor goal returns at this stage might not be reason enough to write them off. 
 

Being written off already 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️ madness

I can't tell you how happy it makes me to finally have a decent, principled man like David Clowes at the helm, rather than some parasitic venture capitalist consortium, a human-rights abusing nation state or a deluded egomaniac millionaire.
No promise of on-the-pitch success could ever convince me to give up what we currently have for any of the latter.
I can't remember the last time I genuinely felt this, but it feels good to be a Ram.

I so hope that someone with the surname "Lake" joins in that conversation (one for the oldies).

On paper it's a good signing and ticks all the boxes as a right wing back in a 3-5-2.
I'll judge his performances in a Derby shirt myself rather than rely on Posh fans, thanks. I've seen enough decent Derby players getting hammered by our own fans to not rely on other people's opinions.

Welcome to PP Joe, hope you have a great career here in Derby COYR 🐏🐏

Please reassure me and tell me your aren't our new head of recruitment, please 🙏 😉

1) As yet we are rumoured to be losing our top goalscorer from last season upon the expiry of his contract. Nothing definite has happened yet. You make out like we’ve lost all of the players in the squad, Davies, Stearman, Chester have all been released and are replaceable. Dobbin, Roberts, Springett and White returned to their parent clubs….and are replaceable. 
 
2) We do have the budget to replace him, we signed him last year and paid his wages, if he leaves we will sign other strikers and pay their wages. We’ve heard from the club over the last season that we were well within the agreed terms of the business plan and have performed better than expected against budget. We’ve also heard we are able to pay fees again….There’s only one person here ignoring things and it’s not me. 
3) What evidence can you offer that there isn’t a “fight” to keep McGoldrick? The club will offer what works best for the club in terms of wages, contract length, playing guarantees etc. If he, a grown man with his own wants and needs, makes a decision to leave then that is up to him.
So yes, at a point when the club is on a sound financial footing, we have a head of recruitment in place who has spotted gems in the past, a manager with the backing of the chairman with what resources we do have, and essentially a clean(ish) slate for recruitment this summer BEFORE the transfer window has even opened, I do wonder why some people are so pessimistic. If we get to 2:59pm on the first day of the season and the squad hasn’t been strengthened maybe I’ll have some concerns. Until then I think people need to find some perspective, losing a 35 year old striker on the back of 1 very good season is very unlikely to be the scenario to ruin this club. We’ve survived worse as a fan base. 

The world cup is long over and all he's doing is hawking his services. He never had any intention of playing for Derby again once we were relegated.
I guess a few are confused on here; for clarity, he's contracted to Derby County and should be preparing to return to the club that paid his wages and medical bills. He should be preparing to return to the club he chose to sign for, ready for pre-season, like every other Derby player, not prattling on about his prospects and keeping his options open. He hasn't and he won't, but I and others are supposed to be fine about it because he is a footballer and has 'higher ambitions'.
Big woop 🙄