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Bloody hell, what's happened to Liam Thompson since the new contract? Thought he'd flourish at this level.

Liam Thompson needs removing as far away from the first team set up as possible, done absolutely naff all every opportunity he’s had. How many chances does he get?

Is there any planned meetings between our owner, guardian and saviour with the supporters groups?
If so, there are so many questions that I am sure many would like to ask, particularly about the plans for the future of the club.
So, to get started, my questions would focus on the manager. Nope, I hope this doesn't become yet another Rosenior versus Warne thread; I would just like to better understand Clowes' thinking and whether promotion is a short term goal or the bigger picture involves restructuring of the entire football club, no matter how long that takes. So...
Was it not possible to appoint Warne during the summer so that he could assemble the squad that he would have wanted? Did Warne assure him that he could work with the current squad or is he expecting a lot of trading during upcoming transfer windows? (And follow up: how frustrating would that be?). Does he and Warne put much emphasis on the Academy, including recruitment of young talent and Category 1 status? Was the aim promotion this season or, given Warne's 4 year contract, the bigger picture is the Derby County rebuild with promotion as and when it happens? Are targets - e.g. regarding league position, academy graduates breaking into the first team - being set? Onto more general things: over what timescales does he see himself as the owner? Having been reluctant in the first instance, would he be looking to sell? Soon? In the Championship? In the Premier League? Given Warne's title is Head Coach rather than Manager, will the club be appointing a Director of Football to oversee transfers, playing strategies etc?

His humour and charm won't win us games unfortunately..
This team should be winning these games and creating more chances with the likes of Hourihane and Mendez Laing in the eleven.

The sooner he realises he is no longer managing plucky underdogs Rotherham the better. We have regressed badly in terms of performance in recent matches. Lincoln aside, we were simply a better team to watch under Rosenior based on the games played so far.

Warne needs to stop being stubborn. We don't have the players for a 352. If he wants to play that then he is going to have to dip into the transfer market in January. Until then, play a 433 which suits what we've got. Watching Barkhuizen running back to his own goal trying to defend made me want to turn the game off.

That was the shitest game I've watched us play since Cocu tbh, woeful football. Didn't have a f****** clue. Really don't think the 3atb system works with our set of players and we don't have the defensive nous or physicality in midfield. Need 2 or 3 in January to have any chance of going up. 
Cashin and Wildsmith the only players who were good today for us, thought Smith was solid as well. 

Get Fozzy on second half 

Get Fozzy on second half 

Get Fozzy on second half 

Met the man himself today,picking up his new Bentley Bentayga W12 from derby....had a good chat with him about derby and Birmingham.
He said he's happy to come back to derby after the world cup if derby want him although Brum are doing their best to hang onto him.
Says he's a fan of our new style of play and reckons we will do better under a more experienced manager and coaching staff.
What a lovely guy by the way,just loves football (and cars!)
 

Warne just said Thompson played well. Worrying. 

Think this is the most embarrassed I’ve been as a Derby fan since 2008

I thought upon relegation that a midfield trio of Bird, Knight and Bielik would absolutely dominate League One.
Then when Hourihane and Smith signed, I laughed as I couldn’t believe how good we had it in there.
Bielik leaving became obvious but I still thought we’d have the best in the league, comfortably.
But it’s been a major disappointment so far. Both individually and collectively, they haven’t been good enough.
So it leads me to the question. Are they underperforming? Or are they overrated? 

Please go LR. We need some fresh ideas after the many years of you and Rooney. This is STALE

Completely out of his depth. 
How many games have we played well in this season? Barnsley first half, Charlton first half. Struggling to remember more.
Teams know how to stop us and Rosenior doesn't know how to come up with the answers.
It was clear after Plymouth that out midfield wasn't working. Crying out for Knight there. He's not even put Oduroh on the bench to give himself the option to move Knight during the game.
That's Shrewsbury, Fleetwood and Lincoln which could yield 2 points. Nowhere near good enough.
Says the other week that nobody is guaranteed to start, mentioning players like Hourihane etc. Said he's not afraid to play these young lads, Oduroh and Rooney after they've done well in cup games. Yet the following game they don't make the bench.
Bird is woeful at the moment. Absolutely woeful. Doesn't bring anything to this side at all. But continues to play.

Can I ask what Liam has done to warrant another job. If the result tonight stays the same we are upper mid table. He has a very good team yet we struggle in most games.
Now I know most will say ‘well they need to gel’ but how long does that take? Six months?
If we are not comfortably in the play offs by Christmas, I am taking a four point cushion, then questions need to be asked about his position.
David Clowes clearly isn’t that struck otherwise he wouldn’t be our interim manager.

I wouldnt offer him the job, at least not yet. I'm still seeing similar football to when rooney was here and I dont believe that type of football will get us promotion. He seems a nice guy who talks very well but that dont mean hes a good manager or is going to be. I hope he succeeds with us I really do, i just wouldnt bet on it.

Whilst on the subject does anyone else think that Steve Bloomer's Watchin is slightly cringe inducing, especially as we seem unable to sing the words in time with the tune

It was like playing with ten men second half.
 
Any (rare) long kick Wildsmith upfield Fozzy failed to win, he's was getting run ragged and this is when Robert's should've come on for him rather than bring Thompson (baffled at that BTW ).
Also feel Hourihane is untouchable,  nowhere near the player he was at Villa and Barnsley,  another player who looks shattered after a hour or so. His corners are dire, his passing gets very sloppy midway through - needs a major kick up the arse because he's normally so technically gifted on the ball.

It was like playing with ten men second half.
 
Any (rare) long kick Wildsmith upfield Fozzy failed to win, he's was getting run ragged and this is when Robert's should've come on for him rather than bring Thompson (baffled at that BTW ).
Also feel Hourihane is untouchable,  nowhere near the player he was at Villa and Barnsley,  another player who looks shattered after a hour or so. His corners are dire, his passing gets very sloppy midway through - needs a major kick up the arse because he's normally so technically gifted on the ball.

Quick update as lots has happened yesterday and overnight. Despite Knight close on a new deal DCFC are expecting 3-4 bids from Championship clubs and depending on figures etc he could go. My gut feeling is he’ll stay but honestly it’s 50/50. Also expecting late bids for Sibbo namely from Cov and Milwall. It’s deadline day and word through the grapevine is Derby are going to be extremely busy with incomings and outgoings. I’ve personally heard no names but for guesses I’d say Cybulski and Foulkes out on loan and a couple loanees brought in ot players in for frees similar to Collins. I’ll try update later but I’d strap in for today!

Well on the bright side they kept the score down enough to count all the goals on one hand.

Literally hasn't done a thing wrong at RB. 
Leave him there and bring in a loan for elsewhere