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You can tell Southgate and Rosenior have been on the same coaching courses. Zero clearcut chances. 

England need Tomori carrying the ball out of defence.

If you had a blank slate with no one at the helm and were thinking, in this situation who would be the best realistic manager for Derby, I don't think you would pick a rookie manager such as Liam Rosenior out of everyone available. But you might pick Paul Warne. 

Then, if you were depressed by Derby's weird way of playing over the last 2-3 seasons, insisting on inviting a press and playing across the defence at every opportunity, always trying and often failing to thread the ball between marauding attackers, and you knew Rosenior had been coaching this way of playing, you definitely wouldn't want him.

As the dust settles I'm feeling positive and hopeful that we've probably found a better way forward, that will mean more exciting and less nerve-shredding football.

10 minutes ago, ariotofmyown said:

Why all the anti-capitalist hate vs Paypal and Big Tech? Are we saying that private companies should be regulated? We are after growth!

What's the point of growth if it only benefits the owners? We're at a key moment in the future, because artificial intelligence and automation could transform everything. If all the technology is in the hands of a very few, they'll just get richer while the rest of Humanity returns to a time of subsistence wages. But if the technology is decentralized and owned by everyone, then we all benefit and get to participate in a much better future. The original Internet was a tremendous invention and game changer because it is decentralized by design. There is a sense in which no one owns it, but there is also a sense that everyone owns it. The problem is we never expected inefficient centralized businesses to be built on top of it, with their walled gardens instead of being open to all. But that is what has happened. It's why in my first post about PayPal I think I talked about cryptocurrency, as the people's money which we can all own equally and which banks and governments can't devalue to our detriment by printing more for themselves.

On the subject of PayPal, if anyone's not boycotting it as a result of all this, there is a donate tab at the top of the forum. One day Big Tech and PayPal will likely come for David and DCFCFans, but that day has not yet come.

On 21/09/2022 at 10:56, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

Jimi Hendrix wrote lots of songs about a girl called Kathy Etchingham from Derby 

who happens to be Julie's second cousin (her dad's cousin): https://www.itv.com/news/2016-02-08/original-foxy-lady-kathy-comes-home-to-flat-she-shared-with-hendrix

12 hours ago, Hoppo said:

A couple of months ago everyone was just hoping that we would still exist the next morning. As the take over happened we were hoping with 5 players we could survive league 1. After a good rummage around we incredibly managed to recruit some quality experienced players and people were talking top half of the table would be a good finish and with a period of stabilisation and maybe push for promotion next season. Once we started to see the quality of the players, though not quite yet gelling together, more hope was put on a top six finish.

With the imminent appointment of a new manager should we now be expecting to win the Division? Top two finish? Play offs? What is a realistic expectation when Warne is in place?

I disagree somewhat with the opening premise. Very quickly after David Clowes bought us we did a lot of business. Before the start of the season @Davidran a poll about expectations (can't find it sorry) and almost everyone expected a top 6 finish, given the quality of the incoming players. I'd love to be reminded of the results, but I think at least 75% were thinking top 6, with roughly half of those thinking automatic promotion. Only a few of us (I was one) said outside the playoff places.

On freedom of speech, PayPal has closed the account for Free Speech Union, which is a perfectly reasonable (but anti-woke) campaign organization. Ditto a parents' group called Us for Them who apparently campaigned to keep schools open during lockdown, probably in hindsight the majority position. Making it more difficult for people to donate money. 

This is the danger of digital money, that you can have your ability to use, access or receive taken away from you at the flick of a switch if someone else, either a government or a financial institution, deem you have the wrong views. This is why cryptocurrency matters so much, because it is impossible for governments or banks to control it. 

57 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

Main concern with Warne is that he's another Nathan Jones. Can do it in their comfort zone but struggle anywhere else. 

Time will tell.

For me, Warne is a risk because he isn't Nathan Jones. Warne's never made the move, so the first time he does, it will be a big learning curve for him. Let's hope it works out.

Because I think Jones is a good if not better manager, and has made the move once but failed, I think he would have learnt from that and been a better bet. 

Or should we have held on for Steve Copper who's bound to be sacked not long after the international break?

Just now, Gritstone Ram said:

I have noticed a lot of posts suggesting David Clowes has made this decision. I don’t think he has. I doubt he is making any footballing matters decisions and others are making them. He may give the final ok but I reckon others are making these calls.

Having invested so much money in us and watched us for so long, I'd be amazed if David Clowes wasn't personally making these decisions. I would trust myself and no one else when so much of my money was at stake. Yes, that's the same attitude that Mel had, but that is surely the reality of football and wealthy owners.

I was unhappy when Rosenior was given the job because of ultra defensive setup and play under his coaching since he arrived at the club, but I could see it as a case of needs must at the time, given the urgent need to bring players in to be able to field a team. I was very glad from the off it was as "interim" manager. Rosenior speaks incredibly well. Some things have been done well, and some poorly. Given the players we have, I feel we should be doing better. But he has obviously brought a togetherness to the club and I respect him for that, and for having a clear vision of how to play, even if didn't like it. Given the financial requirement for promotion this season, I feel we should be set up in a more attacking fashion and simply couldn't afford to be so experimental. 

If this change means we play more attacking football, and score more goals, and stop fannying about so much at the back, and look forward rather than backwards when we get on the ball, I will be delighted. The piece @RoyMac5posted was very interesting and shows Warne is a very thoughtful manager, and that's what comes across in @Dimmu's YouTube clip too. Rosenior was OK but, for good or ill, I feel the season is about to become a lot more exciting.

On the Rotherham forum they say he's bringing his backroom staff with him. As you would expect.

If we're unable to pay transfers fees for players, I am surprised the EFL would allow us to pay compensation for a new manager - and his staff.

13 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said:

What if Warne decides to go to Huddersfield instead? What then?

2 minutes ago, Dimmu said:

Contains strong language:

 

Wow. I hope they had the Inception background music in the dressing room, rather than added afterwards! 

"I'm asking you to take a leap of faith..."

For the owners there is a massive, massive priority to get out of the division this season. This is everything. I have rolled my eyes as plenty of posters have said maybe it would be better to stabilize this year and go up next. As if such a thing were possible. The consequences of not getting promoted would be terrible and that seems the only priority here. Bring someone in who has a track record of promotions out of League One. It's easier to stabilize and retain players in the Championship, with much higher revenues. The thinking will be that the style of football does not matter a jot so long as we go up.

David Clowes put a lot money into saving the club but we have all known he doesn't have a bottomless pit to fund us. This seems pretty pragmatic. Also ruthless and tough on Rosenior, but if Rosenior is staying, he must be on board with it at a fairly significant level. 

Strange. As I said in the other thread, I would have gone for Nathan Jones if we wanted to make a change. I'm very surprised if Liam is staying at the club after this. Presuming it's true, but these are good sources.

A bizarre link, given there's no vacancy and Paul Warne has demonstrated his dislike of us as a club on camera. 

Can't we afford floodlights? Is our dark strip so the opposition can't see our players during night games, enabling them to waltz through the defence and score excellent goals such as this?

On 18/09/2022 at 20:24, Tyler Durden said:

Thanks Grasshopper 

On 18/09/2022 at 23:07, CBX1985 said:

Don't get it?

The Man City game will now be played on Tuesday 18th October at 7pm. Before we're away to Ipswich on the Friday 21st, so I'm guessing we might have to play quite a weakened team.

16 hours ago, David said:

Wasn't a mistake, just allowed those that still want him as manager to put his name down.

Made perfect sense when making the topic, still does.

I really don't understand why anyone is complaining about the other thread, and putting Rosenior’s name down or not. It was well conceived and executed. And good to separate it from here. 

There can be various arguments about the Wycombe game in terms of whether or not we should have started with that formation, and whether or not the changes were forced on Rosenior. I'll be really interested to see how we line up next game.

What really heartened me and showed LR can learn and change and not be too stubborn, was that we didn't take any stupid short goalkicks across the six yard area. Thank goodness. I hope we don't see them again as a planned tactic.

As someone who longs to see players use their football brains and always try to wrong foot opponents, it's fine to take a surprise short goalkick if a quick-thinking player recognizes it will help catch the opposition off guard. But never as the default, while grinning opposition forwards line up on the edge of our penalty area ready to charge our keeper down.

Flawless. And with the whole world watching.

Well done to everyone involved for the send off. The removal of the sceptre, orb and crown had so much finality about it. It brings home the continuity of this all, as the artefacts of royalty are passed on.

And very pleased they changed the route out to Windsor, not going by motorway so those who wanted to could line the route.

The second Elizabethan Age is over.

Based on the RamsTV full match, with my trusty pen and paper in hand.

Wildsmith 7.5  Best game for ages, despite being beaten at the near post and some wayward kicking early on. Some great saves and claims and a willingness to move the ball forward quickly.

Chester 6.5  Steady debut apart from the mixup with Davies. Rosenior would "trust him with my life". Look forward to him becoming part of the matchday squad. 

Knight 6.5  Perhaps finding his feet further forward. 

Roberts 6.5  A little unlucky to come off, but we needed more attackers on the field.

Cashin 7  People said he was poor at Lincoln and needed resting. Again he was our best defender.

Davies 6.5  A couple of errors but generally the rock we expect and seemed more forward thinking with his carrying the ball and passing.

McGoldrick 8  Lots of good work second half, to go with his Cantona-esque chip in the first. Great rotation with Sibley.

Sibley 7.5  Best player in the first half. Highlighted on Radio Derby how much he runs, with and without the ball, to make space for others. Lovely directness and great rotation with McGoldrick, playing as an alternating pair.

Hourihane 8.5  His two goals lifted a relatively ordinary performance to MotM. Goals change games and how we needed them.

Mendez-Laing 7.5  Very strong substitute performance. Needs to start instead of Barks next match

Bird ? 5.5  Lovely shot early on, but then he went into his shell and failed to strike when presented with a glorious opportunity. Later, a great box-to-box run, but in between he did very little.

Collins 5.5  Really hoped he would look to have made a difference after he came on, but I didn't see it.

Barkhuizen 6.5  Didn't impact the game enough.

Forsyth Not on long enough to rate, ditto Thompson.

@EllafellaI decided to try to help make it easier for you by following your seemingly random player ordering, so you can enter the marks straight in. Is this the order of players in your spreadsheet? If so I understand and will continue; if not, it would be lovely to have some sort of team order with the subs in appearance order at the end. Cheers! Keep up the amazing work, for which we're all grateful.

3 hours ago, 86 Hair Islands said:

No Carl. In other games, Conor has been anchored deeper because as we have seen before on several occasions, a midfield 2 of him and Max tend to get overrun and out-muscled at points in the game. When we switched systems yesterday, we had more bodies in the middle sector and Conor started taking up positions from which he could do damage. The rest, as they say, is history.

In any case, I'm glad you're 'ecstatic' about the win and that the Rosey sledging is on hold, albeit briefly, I suspect.

No, Hair. In other games, Conor has been out on his feet by early in the second half. ? 

Saturday 17 September:

Krystian Bielik played the full match in midfield for Birmingham, in their 0-0 home draw with Coventry City.

Jack Stretton was an unused sub in Carlisle's 2-1 home victory over AFC Wimbledon. Incidentally, former Ram Callum Guy scored his first ever goal for Carlisle to put them 1-0 up on the stroke of half-time, shooting into the top corner from outside the box.

21 minutes ago, DRBee said:

If you were only listening on the radio, do share how you knew Hourihane didn't have the legs for a whole game?

You do know they talk about players during the radio commentary? Also, at this point I'm ecstatic that Hourihane was kept on for the equalizer then winner, but in previous games I've watched he's been out on his feet for most of the second half.