Bosshogg

As heartbreaking as it is to lose all this young talent, we have to do anything we can to secure the one and only goal at the moment....
Survival of the club.
Whether you trust Rooney, the Administrators, Kirchner, Rammie or anyone else, we are powerless to do anything about it. So, as difficult as it is - and believe me, I'm struggling - we just have to sit patiently by and hope that those who do have some say in the matter secure the best possible deal for the football club to exist, in the first instance, and then to move forward.
Derby County is what matters here. ?

Im not sure you’re seeing the same picture I am.
On July 1st we will officially become a league 1 club. That is inevitable regardless of any PR work carried out by WR and the players. On the same day several players, some of whom we could get fees for now and some of which well have paid a handsome wage for 6 months will be able to leave for no fee at all. What will we have gained? 

We will be getting relegated. there is no reason to continue to pay high wages for players that simply cannot help us stay up and who will for certain be looking to move on and not play in league 1.
The club owes a huge debt to (among others) HMRC that they won’t be writing any large % off from. 
The new owners, whoever they may be, won’t be buying the club until the secured debt (HMRC) is significantly lower than the value of the product (Derby FC) they’re buying. If the debt continues to remain higher than the value of the product the deal will be off and they’ll all disappear…then we have serious issues of insolvency and being wound up. 

Given that the results on the field will be meaningless in the end result (relegation) the target for the club now is reducing secured debt to enable the sale to go ahead. That means finding income from selling assets (players) and reducing overheads (wages) so that turnover can contribute to further reducing debt.
Forget all about staying up. This ain’t football related anymore. It’s about securing a future and given that an entire squad will need to be rebuilt for league 1 use the saleable assets we have now to secure the future of the football club and accept whatever on field rebuilding process is necessary to mount a promotion from league 1 in however many seasons it takes…cos doing it in season 1 from this starting point ain’t happening either!

I think it's inevitable we will lose considerable amount of players in January. 
Tom Lawrence, Louie Sibley, Max Bird, Lee Buchanan, Jason Knight, Graeme Shinnie, Nathan Byrne & Kelle Roos are all likely to leave. I would also have to imagine Jozwiak would be another likely to be sold, along with Bielik although I'm not 100% sure on his fitness level at the moment. 
Who knows with the likes of Ebosele and Liam Thompson. They may have done enough to get a move too. 
In some respect, I hope that these players do get out and get a chance to play for a club not absolutely riddled with disease. It would be remiss of me as a Derby fan not to want them to all do well in their career. Although, saying that, it would be sickening to see clubs with fans who have reveled in our misery be beneficiaries of these sales, but what can we do.  

This club got through most dark days as losing family members I missed dearly and being on pain 24 hours 7days a week and 365 days a year. 
But one thing always been there for me apart from my mum who is having hard time right now supporting her best I can.

Not at all.
I'm all for a tidy forum, and regularly call for a merge or two, but this is about @B4ev6is's frustration.  His feelings.  His emotions.  It's good that he's talking about it, and it's good that we're here for him.  "Brothers in arms" I think they call it? (Or is it just "Dire Straits"!)
Maybe we need to open a new forum... "Anyone fancy a cuddle" or "You okay, hun?".  Something of that ilk?
 
Either way, we most certainly don't want this kind of luvvy-dovey wuss-talk in a matchday thread, thank you very much!  ?

Cant really do much about them. Was a class goal. Shame to not get anything. I absolutely hate Charlie Austin

It will be difficult unless we get generous help from a premiership big boy for example Man City might go, Liam Delap will get good game time in a competitive team trying to play football at a place he knows with no travel difficulties for him, and allow us just to pay a peppercorn wage.
I could see Belick Jozwiak and Marshall all leaving potentially in January with Rooney’s blessing whilst Lawrence might with a decent bid as well.

The Crouch review recommends a fairer distribution between EPL and EFL.

The latest BBC report says we are still losing money but that is partly because season ticket sales were paid in advance/ carried over, so there is currently little no new money coming in. Otherwise we woud be profitable as a Championship team, leave alone a Premier league payola team. .

 
 
 
 

My bad...I'll peel away from this thread 

What's with the negativity?  Jacket in!  

You forgot last Sunday already!
The game, the atmosphere, the dejection of giving them a goal followed by the elation of coming back to win......I walked out of the ground exhausted yet exhilarated. 
COYR ?

To be honest, I haven't seen any yet, haven't looked outside this forum though.
Wouldn't be surprised if the usual suspects are on it on Twitter.
Just wanted to clear things up which I know the majority of the forum will take my word for.
Appreciate the words. ?

I feel incredibly sad that @Davidfeels he has to post evidence to try and stop the critics and nastiness. I really hope there will be more support than criticism, he does an amazing job and often a thankless one too. 

Quite right. I was in the away end yesterday and refused to join in any of the Billy Sharp songs but sang all the others. I actually like Billy Sharp and wish he’d signed for us in the past. We’ve played them twice this season and lost by the odd goal both times, both scored by Billy Sharp.

From all Derby fans that we are sorry what was sung to you yesterday unfortunately some people drank to much and lost all scences but does not excuse it what so ever. And if that has upset your family it is same here or sheffield untied support please do not judge all Derby fans with same brush.

Just read this. No chance. Not sure why the BBC even bothered with it other than another  scare mongering tactic. 
I mean it’s been a rough week hasn’t it but this is laughable. 

Just read this. No chance. Not sure why the BBC even bothered with it other than another  scare mongering tactic. 
I mean it’s been a rough week hasn’t it but this is laughable. 

it reminds me of the newcastle situation, really steve bruce is doing the exact same job as rafa benitez did yet one is hated and one is loved. I feel like if a more popular name amongst supporters would be in the managers seat we would all be praising him every week working under difficult circumstances.
i never wanted rooney in the first place but he completely won me over when he kept us up

He has zero to do with the issues we now find ourselves in, but he has acted with utter class.
He's had no money and is playing a number of players he knows aren't good enough (at least at the moment) without a word of complaint publicly.
He's just got on with his job and tried to get this team playing decent football with one hand tied behind his back, wearing lead boots and being made to wear a balaclava the wrong way around.
And then he hears about going into administration on TV like the rest of us and rather than whining or walking out he gets on with his job.
I really like what I'm seeing, especially when you consider he's in his first year of management and the second youngest boss in the entire football league.
He should have control of this team if/when he has money to spend, or at the very least until the end of this season.
If he does walk or get pushed, I for one will be bitterly disappointed.

This is going to be one hell of a challenge on ‘Football Manager 2022’ this year.

I took a quick look at forestfans.net and I can guarantee our mods would not allow 90% of their posts through, the swearing and name calling is that bad......
they don't appear to like Hughton, Marinakis, Bong, Yates, Taylor.....

IGOOOOOOORRRR!!!!!
We lost 5-1 mind. Then Igor put his shooting boots away and got down to the business of being the best damned defender in the world, and we didn’t lose another game all season and got promoted. 

Wait…. We have tactics? 
 

Wait…. We have tactics? 
 

Wait…. We have tactics?