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Gareth Southgate Resigns as England Manager


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4 hours ago, Stive Pesley said:

Will be interesting to revisit this topic after the next tournament when his replacement has served us up the free-flowing, skilful players off the leash, attacking football that we are all clamouring for...and we've been knocked out early doors because we kept getting hit on the break by lower-ranked teams playing Southgateball

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At least it would br worth watching, unlike the abiding memories of the turgid stuff we've just had to (not) watch. 

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1 hour ago, ziggyram59 said:

The first 3 yes,  O'Neil no what has he achieved? 

One less Premier League title than Klopp and the same as Pochettino, with about half a billion less to spend?

 

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13 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

One less Premier League title than Klopp and the same as Pochettino, with about half a billion less to spend?

 

O'Neil is quite similar to Gareth in many ways.

Accomplished but not 'glamour' footballer. Workmanlike. 

Liked at all his clubs.

He looks 'similar'.

Good company man.

Better track record as a manager but again not a glamour appointment.

 

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3 minutes ago, Chester40 said:

O'Neil is quite similar to Gareth in many ways.

Accomplished but not 'glamour' footballer. Workmanlike. 

Liked at all his clubs.

He looks 'similar'.

Good company man.

Better track record as a manager but again not a glamour appointment.

Our recent glamour appointments have been Erikkson and Capello. Very expensive flops.

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5 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said:

Our recent glamour appointments have been Erikkson and Capello. Very expensive flops.

Agreed.

Tbh they weren't experienced or conversant with our league,  players,  culture. Nor were they attacking managers who had much personality either.

I'd absolutely love to see what Klopp could do with those players.

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Chester40 said:

Agreed.

Tbh they weren't experienced or conversant with our league,  players,  culture. Nor were they attacking managers who had much personality either.

I'd absolutely love to see what Klopp could do with those players.

 

 

A German manager of the English national team 🤢

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A serious question. Why can't you employ a fantastic man-manager, like even most of Southgate's worst critics accept, alongside a specialist tactician?  It's as though if you can't do both you're considered a failure.

Gareth excelled in most aspects of being England manager - a tough gig - but tactics wasn't his strong suit. Surely in these days of paying someone £5m a year to manage a national team , there are supreme tactical brains out there you could bolt on to the role for £1m salary a year?

It's all a team effort surely? If we can see we need subs desperately at 60 minutes into a crucial game, but the manager stubbornly resists it, he should consult with his " master tactician ". Blindingly obvious?

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10 minutes ago, Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster said:

A serious question. Why can't you employ a fantastic man-manager, like even most of Southgate's worst critics accept, alongside a specialist tactician?  It's as though if you can't do both you're considered a failure.

Gareth excelled in most aspects of being England manager - a tough gig - but tactics wasn't his strong suit. Surely in these days of paying someone £5m a year to manage a national team , there are supreme tactical brains out there you could bolt on to the role for £1m salary a year?

It's all a team effort surely? If we can see we need subs desperately at 60 minutes into a crucial game, but the manager stubbornly resists it, he should consult with his " master tactician ". Blindingly obvious?

You might be on to something here.

They could even give him a fancy title, such as, 'manager assistant' or something like that...

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12 minutes ago, Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster said:

A serious question. Why can't you employ a fantastic man-manager, like even most of Southgate's worst critics accept, alongside a specialist tactician?  It's as though if you can't do both you're considered a failure.

Gareth excelled in most aspects of being England manager - a tough gig - but tactics wasn't his strong suit. Surely in these days of paying someone £5m a year to manage a national team , there are supreme tactical brains out there you could bolt on to the role for £1m salary a year?

It's all a team effort surely? If we can see we need subs desperately at 60 minutes into a crucial game, but the manager stubbornly resists it, he should consult with his " master tactician ". Blindingly obvious?

Nothing wrong with that at all.  As a leader, you don’t need to be great at everything, but be great at bringing in those around you that make up for what you lack.  In fact, I’d say the managers job is about building the culture and environment to be successful.  But he does need to set out his philosophy.  How does he he want his team to look?   What style of football does he want to implement?  The manager can bring in the best tactician, but he will get the best tactics to suit the manager’s philosophy and strategy.  That’s what the manager needs to set out.

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1 hour ago, Dave Mackay Ate My Hamster said:

A serious question. Why can't you employ a fantastic man-manager, like even most of Southgate's worst critics accept, alongside a specialist tactician?  It's as though if you can't do both you're considered a failure.

Gareth excelled in most aspects of being England manager - a tough gig - but tactics wasn't his strong suit. Surely in these days of paying someone £5m a year to manage a national team , there are supreme tactical brains out there you could bolt on to the role for £1m salary a year?

It's all a team effort surely? If we can see we need subs desperately at 60 minutes into a crucial game, but the manager stubbornly resists it, he should consult with his " master tactician ". Blindingly obvious?

 

1 hour ago, FlyBritishMidland said:

Nothing wrong with that at all.  As a leader, you don’t need to be great at everything, but be great at bringing in those around you that make up for what you lack.  In fact, I’d say the managers job is about building the culture and environment to be successful.  But he does need to set out his philosophy.  How does he he want his team to look?   What style of football does he want to implement?  The manager can bring in the best tactician, but he will get the best tactics to suit the manager’s philosophy and strategy.  That’s what the manager needs to set out.

I think Ancelotti works like this at Real Madrid. 

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