Comrade 86 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 On 16/05/2024 at 15:55, simmoram1995 said: Smith apparently had a bad attitude when he was dropped out the team. As for Forsyth it was 50/50 in terms of loyalty but a risk FlyBritishMidland, hintonsboots, Tamworthram and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 People have used the number of clean sheets, to claim that Wildsmith is the best keeper in lg1. Clean sheets can be earned by the whole team and have been in Derby's case, I would imagine that our keepers made amongst the fewest top quality saves last season. I can't remember many times that we picked up points because our keeper was man of the match. On the other hand, Cash and Nelson seemed to mop up most of the awards between them. Eoghan1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadAmster Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 28 minutes ago, StarterForTen said: Which is precisely £0 if no contract has been offered. If. It might only be a 2 letter word but one with huge meaning. There are posts in this thread saying he was offered a contract earlier this season and turned it down as we didn't offer enough. Weirdly enough, that rumour only seems to exist on FB and X. No reputable reports of such anywhere. Should he have actually turned one down as it "wasn't enough", do you really think Rotherham will have offered him more than DCFC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 minute ago, MadAmster said: If. It might only be a 2 letter word but one with huge meaning. There are posts in this thread saying he was offered a contract earlier this season and turned it down as we didn't offer enough. Weirdly enough, that rumour only seems to exist on FB and X. No reputable reports of such anywhere. Should he have actually turned one down as it "wasn't enough", do you really think Rotherham will have offered him more than DCFC? I wonder how often clubs simply don't offer anything? Seems 'polite' regardless, but also like good business sense most of the time to offer something....even if you have a good idea they won't accept. Sorry we don't see you as our number 1 striker, we can only offer you 60% of your current wage to be reserve/back up so we totally understand its probably not what you want... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Also been told that Vickers is leaving jimtastic56, Comrade 86 and Derby4Me 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 minute ago, Mick Harford said: Also been told that Vickers is leaving Any idea if a fee is involved ? i-Ram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MadAmster said: If. It might only be a 2 letter word but one with huge meaning. There are posts in this thread saying he was offered a contract earlier this season and turned it down as we didn't offer enough. Weirdly enough, that rumour only seems to exist on FB and X. No reputable reports of such anywhere. Should he have actually turned one down as it "wasn't enough", do you really think Rotherham will have offered him more than DCFC? Fergusson when releasing Clarke-Harris said..."I wish him all the best, I am sure he will get a good move and he deserves it.", So what is a good move, Peterboro to Rotherham is 90miles away, I can't see him staying in Peterboro and travelling up the M1 2+ hours each way, So a good move will be the money. Wildsmith is a decent keeper, Who could improve as the years move on, But...if he moves surely Rotherham would be a backward step...imo, So again only money will be the driving factor. With not knowing Rotherham's finances...except the loss of circa £8m TV money can they throw money on a gamble for promotion at the 1st attempt 🤷♂️ Like you MadAmster I don't see Rotherham out bidding DCFC...but 🤷♂️ Edited May 17 by Ram-Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hintonsboots Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 8 minutes ago, Mick Harford said: Also been told that Vickers is leaving ITK ? Any other info Mick ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Teale Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 29 minutes ago, ram59 said: People have used the number of clean sheets, to claim that Wildsmith is the best keeper in lg1. Clean sheets can be earned by the whole team and have been in Derby's case, I would imagine that our keepers made amongst the fewest top quality saves last season. I can't remember many times that we picked up points because our keeper was man of the match. On the other hand, Cash and Nelson seemed to mop up most of the awards between them. Didnt he have the 2nd highest save percentage? I'm sure someone posted that. How often are goalkeepers man of the match in a team at the top of the table? I would say his save against Bolton was pretty pivotal FlyBritishMidland, angieram and Reggie Greenwood 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 10 minutes ago, hintonsboots said: ITK ? Any other info Mick ? Not really ITK, but I do know goalkeeping stuff, told Iverson is likely and that Vickers is off. How true, I do not know, but I would trust my source 90% On a personal scouting level that sounds good, maybe Jack Thompson will be 2nd choice, although that is my guess nothing true. LeedsCityRam, Derby4Me, hintonsboots and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 12 minutes ago, Gary Teale said: Didnt he have the 2nd highest save percentage? I'm sure someone posted that. How often are goalkeepers man of the match in a team at the top of the table? I would say his save against Bolton was pretty pivotal And on a personal level I LOVE wildsmith, just because he is leaving it doesn't make him crap. But maybe we just have to move on inter politics, BigTravIsGod, jimtastic56 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 22 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said: Any idea if a fee is involved ? No idea mate, personally I'd doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therealhantsram Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 36 minutes ago, MadAmster said: There are posts in this thread saying he was offered a contract earlier this season and turned it down as we didn't offer enough. Weirdly enough, that rumour only seems to exist on FB and X. No reputable reports of such anywhere. I heard this stated as a fact on Radio Derby by that co commentator chap Darren (don't know his 2nd name). Dom Dietrich did not challenge the statement or make any comment on it. So I took that as a fact that all the RD team were aware of. Just to be clear the RD comment did not suggest the reason for turning down the offer. That part is definitely speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I dont see Iverson as a number 1. He was rather average when at Preston a couple of years back, and pretty poor at Stoke. This would make sense if the rumour of Vickers leaving is also true. He'll also help with integrating any Danish (and Dutch to a lesser extent) players to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: I dont see Iverson as a number 1. He was rather average when at Preston a couple of years back, and pretty poor at Stoke. This would make sense if the rumour of Vickers leaving is also true. He'll also help with integrating any Danish (and Dutch to a lesser extent) players to the club. Don’t know why you think he was average at Preston. I remember before or after a Preston game on sky they did a segment on wether he was the best goalie in the league or not. He also won supporters player of the year and players player of the year in 2022. Leicester fans also were desperate for him to start in the premier league when Ward was starting over him because he was performing well whenever he played. Crewton, hintonsboots, Carnero and 2 others 1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Yesterday Wildsmith was off to Pombey and today its Rotherham. Madness. I thought we had to release our retained list by tomorrow? Unless I am mistaken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomTom92 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 1 minute ago, Eoghan1884 said: Don’t know why you think he was average at Preston. I remember before or after a Preston game on sky they did a segment on wether he was the best goalie in the league or not. He also won supporters player of the year and players player of the year in 2022. Leicester fans also were desperate for him to start in the premier league when Ward was starting over him because he was performing well whenever he played. Yep on the few occasions I’ve seen him play he’s been solid. Was class against us when we beat PNE 1-0 in the admin season. Worth noting though that maybe he’s had a poor season at Stoke as they don’t seem to be wanting to keep him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chester40 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 Is there anyone who is a 'cannot be released at any cost' player? It's definitely the flip side of the stress of suddenly finding you need to upgrade half your team...that suddenly almost anyone feels replaceable. Cashin probably the one person I wouldn't want to lose. Nelson next maybe even though comments abound regarding his previous season at this level. I like NML, Wilson ...Niambe...but of those still 'in the balance' my opinion would totally depend on where we are shopping for their replacement. Barks, Sibley, Collins, Fozzie, Thompson, Wildsmith.. all could potentially do a job at this level but may also ultimately be 'bottom half' players... JJ, Waghorn, Gayle... all massively injury prone. It's nice to be able to be a fairly ambivalent observer for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoghan1884 Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 2 minutes ago, Eoghan1884 said: Don’t know why you think he was average at Preston. I remember before or after a Preston game on sky they did a segment on wether he was the best goalie in the league or not. He also won supporters player of the year and players player of the year in 2022. Leicester fans also were desperate for him to start in the premier league when Ward was starting over him because he was performing well whenever he played. Adding to this he’s also younger than Wildsmith and bigger, he also is in the 51st percentile for long balls compared to wildsmith 8th percentile. He was good at Stoke keeping 7 clean sheets in his 18 league games which is the exact same number they managed in their first 28 games. Definitely is an upgrade on what we have and could well sort out goalkeeper position out for the next 8-10 years in the tiny chance he stuck around here for the rest of his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Trav Posted May 17 Share Posted May 17 I've heard rumours but I must say, Warne has been ruthless Carl Sagan, Wsm-ram, angieram and 8 others 7 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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