Mucker1884 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 2 hours ago, Gerry Daly said: ... But if we play badly and lose badly, or even frankly just lose at all on Saturday then he’s in deep trouble. There is not a lot of patience or faith left amongst the fans In what way will he be "in deep trouble"? I assume you don't mean from an employment perspective, as the owner (his boss) has already stated his job is safe for the foreseeable future. (Those are my words btw, not a direct quote, so feel free to shoot me down on a technicality if that way inclined). I assume you don't mean from a legal perspective, as I doubt the Chief Constable of Derbyshire is lining up a dawn raid on Warne Manor, whilst issuing a warrant to search the premises for evidence of Warne being "In possession of an offensive tactics board"? So how then? What kind of trouble is he likely to be in? 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 If he gets the English equivalent of the white hankie he’s had it, regardless of how someone ‘high up’ at the club briefed Dominic Dietrich. That’s all we have, no public comment from Clowes himself don’t forget. Oh sorry of course Warne himself has told us he has been told to ‘rock on’ We will see. I think his days are numbered Mucker1884, NOTSA74 and deanoakaram4life 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 For heavens sake, why don’t some of our so called fans show some positivity and back the team and manager rather than trying to create an atmosphere of negativity. Like him or not, Paul Warne is going nowhere soon so for Christ’s sake, back him! Ilkestonian, Comrade 86, angieram and 6 others 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Gerry Daly said: If we play well and win well on Saturday he will be surviving until the next bad performance and result. If however there is quite a while before that happens and in the meantime we are much improved then a lot of the doubters will have changed their tune and will forgive him a bad result. But if we play badly and lose badly, or even frankly just lose at all on Saturday then he’s in deep trouble. There is not a lot of patience or faith left amongst the fans It’s not the fans who would be pulling the trigger though is it? Whether you like it or not, I think it will take more than a defeat on Saturday to see him gone. Caerphilly Ram and On the Ram Page 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 7 hours ago, Mucker1884 said: 1/ I never said he called anyone useless. Someone else posted that. 2/ He did, however, bellow "Aaagh! You are a bloody disgrace", seemingly in the general direction of a targeted/specific individual. 3/ Rightly or wrongly (The latter it seems, judging by your account) I always assumed that the phrase "For missing the target from there, you want bloody shooting" referred to a training ground shot on goal, not the taking of a corner? Shows what I know! 4/ I like how we have diverted attention away from the much criticised Mr Warne. Which is nice. 😁 🐏 Indeed, you are correct about point 3……. Comrade 86, Inverurie Ram, Mucker1884 and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 I think his use of the academy players last night is another example of Warne’s man management. As a group they’ve experienced a few days training with the first team, being involved in the match day prep and played minutes in a competitive fixture. And all of this in a safe environment. They’ve played at PP in front of a handful of fans, rather than 25k+ groaning at every mistake, even if one of them doesn’t make it it will probably affect them. And against another U21 team, which in my view will have been less pressure. At the fans forum, Warne said he’d seen young players take steps back in their careers by being rushed too soon. I think he’s doing his best to avoid that scenario, for the sake of the individual and the club. A smart move. kash_a_ram_a_ding_dong, MarsdenRam, Miggins and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, FlyBritishMidland said: I think his use of the academy players last night is another example of Warne’s man management. As a group they’ve experienced a few days training with the first team, being involved in the match day prep and played minutes in a competitive fixture. And all of this in a safe environment. They’ve played at PP in front of a handful of fans, rather than 25k+ groaning at every mistake, even if one of them doesn’t make it it will probably affect them. And against another U21 team, which in my view will have been less pressure. At the fans forum, Warne said he’d seen young players take steps back in their careers by being rushed too soon. I think he’s doing his best to avoid that scenario, for the sake of the individual and the club. A smart move. But Warne has said he wants players who can play in front of 30k crowds! Against another U21 team so not really proper football, no real idea how they might compete. He's basically played an U21 team against another U21 team with a large U21 size crowd. After being told to 'rock on' by Clowes who thinks his Cat1 Academy is worth paying for. 😄 Edited November 9, 2023 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
europia Posted November 9, 2023 Share Posted November 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Gerry Daly said: If he gets the English equivalent of the white hankie he’s had it, regardless of how someone ‘high up’ at the club briefed Dominic Dietrich. That’s all we have, no public comment from Clowes himself don’t forget. Oh sorry of course Warne himself has told us he has been told to ‘rock on’ We will see. I think his days are numbered Yes that was a very strange way to (not) announce a vote of confidence 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Gerry Daly said: If we play well and win well on Saturday he will be surviving until the next bad performance and result. If however there is quite a while before that happens and in the meantime we are much improved then a lot of the doubters will have changed their tune and will forgive him a bad result. But if we play badly and lose badly, or even frankly just lose at all on Saturday then he’s in deep trouble. There is not a lot of patience or faith left amongst some of the fans Ftfy Tamworthram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Daly Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 hours ago, ossieram said: Ftfy What proportion do you think it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 9 hours ago, europia said: Yes that was a very strange way to (not) announce a vote of confidence 🤔 I reckon they deliberately wanted to avoid an announcement of a vote of confidence ( which often seems to precede a sacking). Rather than DC or someone else coming out and saying something that wanted it to be business as usual - nothing to see here. Actually makes sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 12 hours ago, FlyBritishMidland said: Indeed, you are correct about point 3……. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 12 hours ago, FlyBritishMidland said: Indeed, you are correct about point 3……. Thing is, Clough had their respect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 12 hours ago, RoyMac5 said: But Warne has said he wants players who can play in front of 30k crowds! Against another U21 team so not really proper football, no real idea how they might compete. He's basically played an U21 team against another U21 team with a large U21 size crowd. After being told to 'rock on' by Clowes who thinks his Cat1 Academy is worth paying for. 😄 I love the things that scare most folks to death But I ain't ever satisfied I'll stay till the end or till I'm gasping my last breath But I ain't ever satisfied No, I am never satisfied I can pretty much come and go as I like But I ain't ever satisfied Hey, with no bottom line it's hard to know wrong from right But I ain't ever satisfied I'll try anything once but then do it to death But I ain't ever satisfied I expect the worst but I hope for the best Oh, I ain't ever satisfied No, I ain't ever satisfied No, no, no, no, I am never satisfied Can't get enough, no, of nothing I've got seven of everything and more in the till But I ain't ever satisfied You think this is dangerous stuff It ain't even a thrill I ain't ever satisfied Oh, I am never No, I am never I don't know why I ain't ever satisfied Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Inverurie Ram said: I love the things that scare most folks to death But I ain't ever satisfied I'll stay till the end or till I'm gasping my last breath But I ain't ever satisfied No, I am never satisfied I can pretty much come and go as I like But I ain't ever satisfied Hey, with no bottom line it's hard to know wrong from right But I ain't ever satisfied I'll try anything once but then do it to death But I ain't ever satisfied I expect the worst but I hope for the best Oh, I ain't ever satisfied No, I ain't ever satisfied No, no, no, no, I am never satisfied Can't get enough, no, of nothing I've got seven of everything and more in the till But I ain't ever satisfied You think this is dangerous stuff It ain't even a thrill I ain't ever satisfied Oh, I am never No, I am never I don't know why I ain't ever satisfied Satisfied with poor league 1 football? Each to their own mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inverurie Ram Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 1 minute ago, RoyMac5 said: Satisfied with poor league 1 football? Each to their own mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 Just now, Inverurie Ram said: Foundations built on sand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TINMANTED Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 14 hours ago, Gerry Daly said: If he gets the English equivalent of the white hankie he’s had it, regardless of how someone ‘high up’ at the club briefed Dominic Dietrich. That’s all we have, no public comment from Clowes himself don’t forget. Oh sorry of course Warne himself has told us he has been told to ‘rock on’ We will see. I think his days are numbered since the tea party,i think we are seeing a different warne,obviously more was said than rock on.warnes tactics seem to have taken a better direction,and we are now seeing and hearing about the youngsters,and even talking of recruitment from abroad.hopefully this can continue to improve and we can save money by not needing to get rid of warne,time will tell RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ossieram Posted November 10, 2023 Share Posted November 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Gerry Daly said: What proportion do you think it is? Like everybody else, I'd guessing if I gave you a number. Tamworthram and Caerphilly Ram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertRam Posted November 11, 2023 Share Posted November 11, 2023 3 more games and we will be cemented in the top 6 2 bad games - but we are improving all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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