Barney1991 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Jourdan said: This is a very important point. I think people forget these players are not top class players with top class decision making and composure. Warne has obviously made mistakes this season. These players have also made mistakes this season, the kind of mistakes games hinge upon. There will be days when your players simply don’t deliver no matter how much you try. Collins, Barkhuizen, NML, Waghorn - they will have days when everything they touch turns to gold but equally they will also have days when they frustrate you to high heaven. We know that very well by now - you have to take the rough with the smooth. Today was one of those days. On Tuesday, it could be the reverse. Waghorn scores two, we win and people are dreaming again. Why so much panic? They might not be top class players but as Warne would say they are top class humans and good people Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trappatoni Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, DCFC1388 said: I do however think some fans wont be happy regardless of what happens on the pitch whilst Warne is in charge. Even if we won the league they would moan about something. A hypothesis unlikely ever to be tested. norwichram and angieram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jono Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, nogbad van 50 said: Exactly! Listened to Colin Gibson's post match thoughts regarding the fact that Warne doesn't really appear to rate some of Rosenior's signings but obviously can't say so.The players who currently beat the brunt of most of our frustrations are Collins,NML and Smith-all LR signings.Contracts for Hourihane,Smith,NML,Collins,Barks and Sibley expire next June and I won't miss any of them.Cashin and Bird ,however,will be big losses but that's where we are as a club,sadly.Fornah,Nelson and Nyambe are good additions and Ward,Wilson and Elder,when fit,should improve us.Like many others I feel frustrated but expecting instantaneous success after what we've been through is totally unrealistic.It took Fergie,the greatest,5 seasons to get it right at Utd!! Warne is getting a lot of criticism,some of it well over the top,but I won't sit in "judgment" until the squad is full of his signings and not one where he's trying to get the best out of several players who are past there sell by date and only here because we were desperate for bodies and offering the chance of one last decent pay day. Well said. And an injury list that is far from helpful. As long as we motor on and don’t look in danger then a development plan and strategy needs time to do its stuff and for me that is what was decided by DC when awarding a 4 year deal. … Hey, by the end of year 2 and in to 3 we want to see resilience, identity and a winning style but twitchy trigger fingers have got us nowhere in 10 years. Patience ladies and gentlemen. nogbad van 50, FlyBritishMidland, MickD and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzaRam Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, paintingstandsatderby said: And three who could add a lot offensively are currently injured are they not? Ward and who else? JJ? always injured. Who else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jourdan said: This is a very important point. I think people forget these players are not top class players with top class decision making and composure. Warne has obviously made mistakes this season. These players have also made mistakes this season, the kind of mistakes games hinge upon. There will be days when your players simply don’t deliver no matter how much you try. Collins, Barkhuizen, NML, Waghorn - they will have days when everything they touch turns to gold but equally they will also have days when they frustrate you to high heaven. We know that very well by now - you have to take the rough with the smooth. Today was one of those days. On Tuesday, it could be the reverse. Waghorn scores two, we win and people are dreaming again. Why so much panic? I agree to a point but this issue doesnt seem to be affecting Oxford or Portsmouth. Or Plymouth, Ipswich or Sheffield Wednesday last season. That's the point. If you want to be promoted you can't afford to have these days. Or at least not as many as we are having. Edited September 30, 2023 by Blondest Goat Hector was the best and norwichram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintingstandsatderby Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: Ward and who else? JJ? always injured. Who else? Yes JJ and also Embleton Edited September 30, 2023 by paintingstandsatderby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ram59 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I thought that that was our best home performance of the season, played behind their full backs numerous times, only to be found wanting with the final ball or having someone in space on the edge of the box for a pull pack. My biggest moan is about the taking of free kicks and corners, they were woeful, even Sibo made a mess of them. These are professional footballers kicking a stationary ball, I could have done better. I think some time needs to be spent on the training ground. Overall, I'm more optimistic than before the game, I have belief that they can play football the right way, apparently following PW's instructions, contrary to what some think. Caerphilly Ram, FlyBritishMidland, archram and 7 others 3 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazzaRam Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, paintingstandsatderby said: Yes JJ and also Embleton Embleton has already gone back!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, ram59 said: I thought that that was our best home performance of the season, played behind their full backs numerous times, only to be found wanting with the final ball or having someone in space on the edge of the box for a pull pack. My biggest moan is about the taking of free kicks and corners, they were woeful, even Sibo made a mess of them. These are professional footballers kicking a stationary ball, I could have done better. I think some time needs to be spent on the training ground. Overall, I'm more optimistic than before the game, I have belief that they can play football the right way, apparently following PW's instructions, contrary to what some think. We couldn't score in a brothel. We had how many shots on target at home, against an ordinary side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiggerB Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 1 hour ago, VulcanRam said: I disagree with this bit. Mendez Laing was clean through on goal after a minute but despite having a run from half way, at some stage managed to run away from goal. That's a clear cut chance. Collins' header in the second half, a clear cut chance. Waghorn's header, a clear cut chance. Barks shot after Mendez's fail, a clear cut chance. Plus we hit the post in the first half (I think, it was down the far end). We created more than enough to win the game, aside from the admittedly poor two efforts on target. 4 times I counted he got the ball stuck under his feet today. On that occasion it bobbled on to his left which he doesn’t appear to be confident standing on, let alone shooting into a glaring net with. Hence he pushed it to such and acute angle that Barks had literally nowt to aim at but their keeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: We couldn't score in a brothel. We had how many shots on target at home, against an ordinary side? There have been so many recent past managers for whom this could be true though… It’s almost a pandemic of DCFC managers of the last 10 y. Just spinning the bottle for another one seems so unlikely to result in a different outcome… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paintingstandsatderby Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, DazzaRam said: Embleton has already gone Doesn’t matter whether he’s stayed, gone back or gone to timbucktoo, he was signed by Warne and is now injured🤷 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I'm usually Captain Grumpy however I thought we played much better today. Typical football isn't it, play horrendous and win, play really well and it's 0-0. Both full backs were superb today, blocked all their attacks. We just lacked some quality in the final third. The forward line let us down today. I hope Warne sticks with this system though, it has potential when we have more players coming back from injury. Caerphilly Ram and nogbad van 50 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dean (hick) Saunders said: There have been so many recent past managers for whom this could be true though… It’s almost a pandemic of DCFC managers of the last 10 y. Just spinning the bottle for another one seems so unlikely to result in a different outcome… We're in League 1. So many recent managers haven't been chosen to get us out of League 1. Spinning the bottle might not get us better but I don't think it could get us worse unless Jewell or Docherty is chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepyuppy Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 I thought Mendez-Lang was utter pants today,,,,,,, maybe his head is still in Guatemala, because it certainly wasn’t with him today. He should have been taken off 25 minutes earlier and Wilson given much more time - He won’t be with us next season, so hopefully his wages can be spent on a couple of young hungry wide guys 🤔🐏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 Fornah looks good but it won’t work with him and Smith in the middle. No creativity, no penetration and no forward emphasis. Sideways and back again. Two slow strikers together won’t work. Nothing in behind. Our only chance is for the wingers to do something. It’s depressing football. I wasn’t excited today and wasn’t ever on the edge of my seat. Then his after match interview and after 15 seconds he was talking about sugar. The sooner he goes the Better for this club. norwichram, Hector was the best and Jayram 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogbad van 50 Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Jayram said: Bloody hell that is depressing thought, our beloved football club full of ‘his’ type of players. By that point though at least I’ll probably be spending the money I would have spent on a season ticket on something more entertaining/enjoyable. A new Xbox possibly..🙂 Whatever floats your boat ! but I like the look of Vickers,Nyambe ,Nelson,Elder,Fornah,Ward and Wilson.Unlike some I'll give it a bit more time . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, nogbad van 50 said: Whatever floats your boat ! but I like the look of Vickers,Nyambe ,Nelson,Elder,Fornah,Ward and Wilson.Unlike some I'll give it a bit more time . You don’t like the look to goals though. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 11 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: We're in League 1. So many recent managers haven't been chosen to get us out of League 1. Spinning the bottle might not get us better but I don't think it could get us worse unless Jewell or Docherty is chosen. Expensive for the club to keep punting for anyone but the last guy. (And crossing fingers.) If we had a good striker we would be in top 6 and then the debates would be a bit different… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler Durden Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Keepyuppy said: I thought Mendez-Lang was utter pants today,,,,,,, maybe his head is still in Guatemala, because it certainly wasn’t with him today. He should have been taken off 25 minutes earlier and Wilson given much more time - He won’t be with us next season, so hopefully his wages can be spent on a couple of young hungry wide guys 🤔🐏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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