Rich3478 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 10 minutes ago, oodledoodle said: It gives us one more. 3 at the back instead of 4. Not really, would say is five at the back personally. Wings backs are defenders to me. so have a back five, two defensive mids. Doesn’t leave much room for creativity does it. watched spurs play it last season and was just awful to watch. Am sure it can work with the right players, not convinced we have them currently though. strawhillram, derbydaz22 and RoyMac5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 27 minutes ago, chadlad said: The point is most successful teams play 4 at the back… Didn't Man City win the treble last season with 3 at the back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, Ghost of Clough said: Didn't Man City win the treble last season with 3 at the back? That's the Brazil argument too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 In that back three that played today I would be including young Rooney as we will desperately need some pace when opposing teams counter with any pace. JustOneBiblicalKazim and Tamworthram 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: Didn't Man City win the treble last season with 3 at the back? I would be happy to take their back three Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, oodledoodle said: It gives us one more. 3 at the back instead of 4. Ah, the Spinal Tap school of football management. Dordogne-Ram, angieram, Rammeister and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanjwitham Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 3 at the back can absolutely work, if you are playing it to achieve something specific, and if you have the players to play it. We seem to fit neither of those. We look no closer to have a squad capable of playing it, despite a bunch of signings. And we seem intent on getting loads of crosses in the box, yet start with wingbacks (so your wide players are starting much deeper, have no support, and have to constantly worry about getting back to defend), and are playing a lone striker (so we get barely anybody in the box to get on the end of the crosses). 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouRams Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Said it after Sheff Utd we need something more in front of them for it to work, Hourihane possibly undroppable now he's captain, Smith is playing well further up and Bird is now fancied further up but one of them needs sacrificing for a strong CDM that can move or we'll continue to get overrun through the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_dcfc Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 20 minutes ago, Sparkle said: In that back three that played today I would be including young Rooney as we will desperately need some pace when opposing teams counter with any pace. Is Rooney quick? My impression of him has always been good on the ball but slow and clumsy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 3 at the back can absolutely work. But if helps if you have two things… A plan of how to attack and exploit the oppositions weaknesses You have pace (across the team but) particularly in your back line that get’s you out of the poop when teams sit in, invite you to push on and hit you on the break i-Ram and chadlad 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, oodledoodle said: None of them would get into this Derby team. They're too old. Only just. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadlad Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Didn't Man City win the treble last season with 3 at the back? I would say that Man City adopt a very flexible system and have very skilful and intelligent players who are able to interchange positions and adapt to different systems. I don’t like 3 at the back but then I’m not the Manager of DCFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanS1992 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 hours ago, chadlad said: …doesn’t work in my humble opinion. Has anyone won anything playing 3 at the back. A number of times today there appeared to be a huge space in the middle of our defence. Sonny Bradley is undoubtedly a good player but is not the quickest and seems to have a habit of going awol. Two CD’s make the defence more secure while still allowing full backs to overlap and wingers to cut inside. Happy to be shot down - discuss. 🙂 Antonio Conte's Chelski won the PL with 3 at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InstaRam Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 (edited) I wonder if maybe Bradley and Cashin should actually switch places? Crazy but we want Bradley in as many duels/headers as possible and Cashin is actually great when he runs towards our own goal and defend with a sliding tackle in the last minute to stop an attacker with taste for goal. Also that opens up for Cashins long balls as an alternative attacking option as well. The set up today didn't feel right but early days. Cashin might need time to adjust I think based on todays showing. Looked a bit "off" from his usual self. Edited August 5, 2023 by InstaRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rammieib Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 When we inevitably move to a back four when results aren’t good enough, but mainly to get another attacker on the field, who goes right back? Wilson, Smith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 I think you can get far too hung up on 3/4/5 or formations in general, it's often more about the characteristics of the players, their understanding of each other and the shape of the team and to that end, I wasn't convinced by Cashin particularly in almost all aspects. I fully appreciate he's young and playing with two new centre backs but doesn't look immediately comfortable and because Fozzy was so high, he's vulnerable to pace down the side of him. Not great initial signs but Warne is unlikely to change the 3 so let's hope its more cohesive in the next few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Our back 3 need time to gel and get used to playing together. That chemistry and relationship between them won't come over night. FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Yes but apart from all the examples on here, has anyone ever won anything with 3 at the back! chadlad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
valakari Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 3 hours ago, Rich3478 said: Not a fan of a back three, yet to see any evidence it actually makes us more secure at the back. Just seems to leave us with one less player as an attacking option. Agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 hours ago, InstaRam said: The set up today didn't feel right but early days. Cashin might need time to adjust I think based on todays showing. Looked a bit "off" from his usual self. I thought the same. I found it strange that on several occasions he was playing in deep attacking positions on the left upfield with no chance of getting back to defend the counterattack. But on each occasion Korey Smith had dropped back into the defence to cover for him. Maybe that was a pre-planned strategy but it seemed to take balance away from our shape and he wasn't particularly productive on his forward forays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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