chadlad Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 …doesn’t work in my humble opinion. Has anyone won anything playing 3 at the back. A number of times today there appeared to be a huge space in the middle of our defence. Sonny Bradley is undoubtedly a good player but is not the quickest and seems to have a habit of going awol. Two CD’s make the defence more secure while still allowing full backs to overlap and wingers to cut inside. Happy to be shot down - discuss. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammeister Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 kevinhectoring, SSD, Lander and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Didn't bald eagle play 3 at the back? Works when you have the right personnel 🤠 NottsRam77, abertawe_ram, Premier ram and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadlad Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 The point is most successful teams play 4 at the back… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Plymouth, Ipswich & Sheff Weds all played 3 at the back for large parts of last season. Andicis, Premier ram and angieram 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, chadlad said: …doesn’t work in my humble opinion. Has anyone won anything playing 3 at the back. A number of times today there appeared to be a huge space in the middle of our defence. Sonny Bradley is undoubtedly a good player but is not the quickest and seems to have a habit of going awol. Two CD’s make the defence more secure while still allowing full backs to overlap and wingers to cut inside. Happy to be shot down - discuss. 🙂 Derby under the bald Eagle. But; we had Rowett, Chris Powell, Stimac, Carsley, Ron Willems, Van Der Laan, Gabbiadini, Paul Simpson, Sturridge, Ashley Ward. Oh how we have fallen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 11 minutes ago, Rammeister said: Yeah but apart from that RamontheMoor, EtoileSportiveDeDerby and Rammeister 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Derby under the bald Eagle. But; we had Rowett, Chris Powell, Stimac, Carsley, Ron Willems, Van Der Laan, Gabbiadini, Paul Simpson, Sturridge, Ashley Ward. Oh how we have fallen. None of them would get into this team derbydaz22, nick_d and MackworthRamIsGod 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, chadlad said: …doesn’t work in my humble opinion. Has anyone won anything playing 3 at the back. A number of times today there appeared to be a huge space in the middle of our defence. Sonny Bradley is undoubtedly a good player but is not the quickest and seems to have a habit of going awol. Two CD’s make the defence more secure while still allowing full backs to overlap and wingers to cut inside. Happy to be shot down - discuss. 🙂 Didn't Sheff Utd go from League One to the Premier League pretty quickly playing 3 at the back? Caerphilly Ram, angieram, Will Hughes Hair and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Just now, oodledoodle said: None of them would get into this team They're about the right age tbf... 👀 oodledoodle and inter politics 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackworthRamIsGod Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Just now, oodledoodle said: None of them would get into this team In the Brazil team? Or the current Derby team? A 1 legged Carlton Palmer would get in this team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rammy03 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Chelsea won the champions League a couple of years ago playing 3 at the back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Just now, MackworthRamIsGod said: In the Brazil team? Or the current Derby team? A 1 legged Carlton Palmer would get in this team None of them would get into this Derby team. They're too old. oldtimeram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chadlad Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 8 minutes ago, Carnero said: Plymouth, Ipswich & Sheff Weds all played 3 at the back for large parts of last season. I seem to recall that we tried 3 at the back for a few games last season, didn’t seem to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich3478 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Not a fan of a back three, yet to see any evidence it actually makes us more secure at the back. Just seems to leave us with one less player as an attacking option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, chadlad said: I seem to recall that we tried 3 at the back for a few games last season, didn’t seem to work. We literally had no fullbacks. I'd not base any system on what we did or didn't do last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oodledoodle Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 2 minutes ago, Rich3478 said: Not a fan of a back three, yet to see any evidence it actually makes us more secure at the back. Just seems to leave us with one less player as an attacking option. It gives us one more. 3 at the back instead of 4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 It's about us playing 3 at the back? Didn't look comfortable today (or in patches preseason). The midfield is wrong with 3/5 too. Mostly today we had CBs getting in each others way. Only Nelson seems decent when he gets confident enough to come forward with the ball. Mostly we just slowed down play. Plus I understood that Elder was a fullback rather than wingback? I hate 3 at the back, very few teams have players good enough to play the system well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 4 minutes ago, oodledoodle said: None of them would get into this Derby team. They're too old. Pah even now Roberto Carlos would. oodledoodle 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 1 minute ago, MackworthRamIsGod said: Derby under the bald Eagle. But; we had Rowett, Chris Powell, Stimac, Carsley, Ron Willems, Van Der Laan, Gabbiadini, Paul Simpson, Sturridge, Ashley Ward. Oh how we have fallen. True but with four at the back we walked the Second Division in 1968-9 (Webster-McFarland-Mackay-Robson), won the League Championship in 1971-72 (Webster-McFarland-Todd-Robson) and won it gain with a back four in 1974-75 (Webster/Thomas-Daniel-Todd-Nish). It's important to use a system which best utilises the players at your disposal but the overriding factor is the quality of the players at your disposal. The stark fact of the matter, through no fault of theirs, is that the existing group of players in terms of competition above them, is the worst group in terms of quality in the history of our club, alongside the team from 1984-85 and 2022-23. They have to rise above that level if we are to be promoted this season. We'll soon find out if they are capable of that or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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