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Paul Warne on Sportscene for full hour 1st August


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19 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said:

I can. I get why some don’t. I’m just not one of them, I find his approach refreshing. For me he talks about the right things in terms of culture and character, especially if you’re looking to drive standards and create a high performing team/organisation. 
Just hope he’s learned lessons from last season about managing the squad and his in-game management of tactics. My biggest frustrations with last season were the timing of substitutions and seemingly the inability to adapt to tactical tweaks by the opposition. I’m hoping the better depth and balance he’s aiming for with the squad now will help avoid that. If he manages those things and gets us at the top end of the table I can deal with his cheesy humour no end.

The problem last season was I don’t think we had the squad to react in certain circumstances! I like him, breath of fresh air compared to some managers we’ve had 👍🏻

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4 minutes ago, Rich3478 said:

I find him pretty likeable, but can imagine it getting very annoying if we’re struggling. 
 

was a bit in the middle to him last season, some positives but some quite fixable negatives. Not sure we’ve addressed them.

needs a good season.

You would hope/imagine it would be a different script.

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A few things of note, one I think answered a big question of the fans, but it didn’t seem to be emphasised:

The club have agreed what they can spend with the EFL, since then they have sold Knight and Bielik - however it sounds like the fees made are inconsequential because we can’t go beyond the money agreed with the EFL. It can only go into the running of the club.

For example: If we have said we won’t spend anymore than £10m on playing staff this year, even if we were to sell Cashin for £10m, the money wouldn’t matter because we’re still restricted by the £10m agreement with the EFL. It sounded like Knight in the end forced the move to Bristol City, Warne obviously would’ve preferred to keep him knowing that his sale in all actuality doesn’t help him at all. I think he made a point of saying Bird hasn’t done that, but it must be a concern to him that any outgoings essentially don’t help due to our agreement with the EFL. He’s been big on saying he doesn’t want hostages, but for me he’s painting himself into a corner knowing that any outgoings don’t help him and anyone who asks nicely can go with his blessing. 

Waghorn offered a deal. I don’t see anyway that isn’t signed in all honesty, it’s a player he didn’t have a budget for but he seems to be making room for him. Nothing in the loan market and he doesn’t anticipate there to be for a while - he’s not keen on first loans. I guess that’s fair enough. Might be worth looking at who has been out on loan and done well in League One, or not so well in the Championship still available on the market. He did mention Middlesbrough which I thought was a tip towards Coburn, but could also be Barlaser. 

He mentioned that a striker he was in the market for, he pulled the plug on the deal as the numbers would’ve killed us. Rhodes came to mind. He did say 8 Championship clubs are in for said player, though, so maybe not. Also, two strikers we were in for have gone to other league one clubs - Ruben Rodrigues and Sam Smith would be my guess. He mentioned that he expects Oxford to be among the league front runners which makes me think Rodrigues. I believe he did also speak to Cole Stockton, maybe he was another one, he did say Burton have had a really good window. Who knows. 

He’s very high on Korey Smith and Connor Washington for the upcoming season. Bird, I get the impression, he believes can be a difference maker in an attacking role. We will see. 

Lastly, I got the impression that if we aren’t promoted this season that he may not be here next season. It was a flippant comment, but something about the club needing change if it doesn’t work and giving the keys to his car back(?) - definitely seems like players out of contract (Bird, Cashin, etc) aren’t signing their contract until they know where the club is going to be next season. 

I anticipate we will see some movement towards the back end of the window, unfortunately sounds like we’re hamstrung with our original agreement with the EFL unless we want to open that conversation again. 

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1 minute ago, Ambitious said:

A few things of note, one I think answered a big question of the fans, but it didn’t seem to be emphasised:

The club have agreed what they can spend with the EFL, since then they have sold Knight and Bielik - however it sounds like the fees made are inconsequential because we can’t go beyond the money agreed with the EFL. It can only go into the running of the club.

For example: If we have said we won’t spend anymore than £10m on playing staff this year, even if we were to sell Cashin for £10m, the money wouldn’t matter because we’re still restricted by the £10m agreement with the EFL. It sounded like Knight in the end forced the move to Bristol City, Warne obviously would’ve preferred to keep him knowing that his sale in all actuality doesn’t help him at all. I think he made a point of saying Bird hasn’t done that, but it must be a concern to him that any outgoings essentially don’t help due to our agreement with the EFL. He’s been big on saying he doesn’t want hostages, but for me he’s painting himself into a corner knowing that any outgoings don’t help him and anyone who asks nicely can go with his blessing. 

Waghorn offered a deal. I don’t see anyway that isn’t signed in all honesty, it’s a player he didn’t have a budget for but he seems to be making room for him. Nothing in the loan market and he doesn’t anticipate there to be for a while - he’s not keen on first loans. I guess that’s fair enough. Might be worth looking at who has been out on loan and done well in League One, or not so well in the Championship still available on the market. He did mention Middlesbrough which I thought was a tip towards Coburn, but could also be Barlaser. 

He mentioned that a striker he was in the market for, he pulled the plug on the deal as the numbers would’ve killed us. Rhodes came to mind. He did say 8 Championship clubs are in for said player, though, so maybe not. Also, two strikers we were in for have gone to other league one clubs - Ruben Rodrigues and Sam Smith would be my guess. He mentioned that he expects Oxford to be among the league front runners which makes me think Rodrigues. I believe he did also speak to Cole Stockton, maybe he was another one, he did say Burton have had a really good window. Who knows. 

He’s very high on Korey Smith and Connor Washington for the upcoming season. Bird, I get the impression, he believes can be a difference maker in an attacking role. We will see. 

Lastly, I got the impression that if we aren’t promoted this season that he may not be here next season. It was a flippant comment, but something about the club needing change if it doesn’t work and giving the keys to his car back(?) - definitely seems like players out of contract (Bird, Cashin, etc) aren’t signing their contract until they know where the club is going to be next season. 

I anticipate we will see some movement towards the back end of the window, unfortunately sounds like we’re hamstrung with our original agreement with the EFL unless we want to open that conversation again. 

I think he said that the players Burton have brought in wouldn't fit with this team.  I'd suggest it was May.  I agree the other one probably was Rodrigues.  The striker he was referring to re the budget was a loan in January rather than the current window. 

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1 minute ago, Gee SCREAMER !! said:

I think he said that the players Burton have brought in wouldn't fit with this team.  I'd suggest it was May.  I agree the other one probably was Rodrigues.  The striker he was referring to re the budget was a loan in January rather than the current window. 

He said that he was in for him this summer too, I believe otherwise my wires are crossed? 

If not, perhaps he was referring to Tom Cannon thinking about it? We were linked with him and he’s had half the Championship after him this season. Preston just paid a £1m loan fee to have him for the season. 

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5 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

A few things of note, one I think answered a big question of the fans, but it didn’t seem to be emphasised:

The club have agreed what they can spend with the EFL, since then they have sold Knight and Bielik - however it sounds like the fees made are inconsequential because we can’t go beyond the money agreed with the EFL. It can only go into the running of the club.

For example: If we have said we won’t spend anymore than £10m on playing staff this year, even if we were to sell Cashin for £10m, the money wouldn’t matter because we’re still restricted by the £10m agreement with the EFL. It sounded like Knight in the end forced the move to Bristol City, Warne obviously would’ve preferred to keep him knowing that his sale in all actuality doesn’t help him at all. I think he made a point of saying Bird hasn’t done that, but it must be a concern to him that any outgoings essentially don’t help due to our agreement with the EFL. He’s been big on saying he doesn’t want hostages, but for me he’s painting himself into a corner knowing that any outgoings don’t help him and anyone who asks nicely can go with his blessing. 

Waghorn offered a deal. I don’t see anyway that isn’t signed in all honesty, it’s a player he didn’t have a budget for but he seems to be making room for him. Nothing in the loan market and he doesn’t anticipate there to be for a while - he’s not keen on first loans. I guess that’s fair enough. Might be worth looking at who has been out on loan and done well in League One, or not so well in the Championship still available on the market. He did mention Middlesbrough which I thought was a tip towards Coburn, but could also be Barlaser. 

He mentioned that a striker he was in the market for, he pulled the plug on the deal as the numbers would’ve killed us. Rhodes came to mind. He did say 8 Championship clubs are in for said player, though, so maybe not. Also, two strikers we were in for have gone to other league one clubs - Ruben Rodrigues and Sam Smith would be my guess. He mentioned that he expects Oxford to be among the league front runners which makes me think Rodrigues. I believe he did also speak to Cole Stockton, maybe he was another one, he did say Burton have had a really good window. Who knows. 

He’s very high on Korey Smith and Connor Washington for the upcoming season. Bird, I get the impression, he believes can be a difference maker in an attacking role. We will see. 

Lastly, I got the impression that if we aren’t promoted this season that he may not be here next season. It was a flippant comment, but something about the club needing change if it doesn’t work and giving the keys to his car back(?) - definitely seems like players out of contract (Bird, Cashin, etc) aren’t signing their contract until they know where the club is going to be next season. 

I anticipate we will see some movement towards the back end of the window, unfortunately sounds like we’re hamstrung with our original agreement with the EFL unless we want to open that conversation again. 

Good post, the Middlesbrough comment made my mind start ticking aswell with it must be a player we’re in for from them lot to of mentioned them

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1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said:

Training ground was paintwd all white and felt "hospitally", so made a change there. Stopped players walking on the club badge on floors, for 10:30 meetings, some players would turn up at 10:30-ish. £250 fines introduced for when players get subbed and don't shake his hand.using mobile phones when they shouldn't. A few other examples were given but I couldn't type fast enough and already forgotten what he said.

 

Edit: remembered one more - kit now turned the right way round after use for it to be washed.

That seriously was always what I said to the teams I managed - & sweeping the dressing room floor post-match. 

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10 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

Also, two strikers we were in for have gone to other league one clubs - Ruben Rodrigues and Sam Smith would be my guess. He mentioned that he expects Oxford to be among the league front runners which makes me think Rodrigues.

Could be wrong but I think it may have been Knibbs and Smith (both now at Reading). 

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6 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

He said that he was in for him this summer too, I believe otherwise my wires are crossed? 

If not, perhaps he was referring to Tom Cannon thinking about it? We were linked with him and he’s had half the Championship after him this season. Preston just paid a £1m loan fee to have him for the season. 

Could be. 

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19 minutes ago, Rich3478 said:

I find him pretty likeable, but can imagine it getting very annoying if we’re struggling. 
 

was a bit in the middle to him last season, some positives but some quite fixable negatives. Not sure we’ve addressed them.

needs a good season.

I think this was it for me. Imagine if we were on a run of 5 successive losses and he was as jovial as he was tonight. Even today, to a lesser extent, I think a lot of people wanted some reassurance (what with the fruitless striker search and the bid for Max), and I'm just not sure if the tone was quite right.

Another part of it - and this is just a personal thing - is his use of business buzz words. I spend a lot of time at work dealing with 'Employee Engagement Specialists' and other trendy job titles talking about transformational cultures, etc etc. So to hear him call himself a 'Relationship Manager' just made me cringe 😂

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2 hours ago, Mick Harford said:

I'd guess at May and Sam Smith, solely my guess mind.

Latest news with Reading, who signed Sam Smith might have to let all their summer signings go, due to their tax problems. They are now under a fresh embargo and rumours are that the 4 players that they recently signed are yet to be registered.

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36 minutes ago, Ambitious said:

A few things of note, one I think answered a big question of the fans, but it didn’t seem to be emphasised:

The club have agreed what they can spend with the EFL, since then they have sold Knight and Bielik - however it sounds like the fees made are inconsequential because we can’t go beyond the money agreed with the EFL. It can only go into the running of the club.

For example: If we have said we won’t spend anymore than £10m on playing staff this year, even if we were to sell Cashin for £10m, the money wouldn’t matter because we’re still restricted by the £10m agreement with the EFL. It sounded like Knight in the end forced the move to Bristol City, Warne obviously would’ve preferred to keep him knowing that his sale in all actuality doesn’t help him at all. I think he made a point of saying Bird hasn’t done that, but it must be a concern to him that any outgoings essentially don’t help due to our agreement with the EFL. He’s been big on saying he doesn’t want hostages, but for me he’s painting himself into a corner knowing that any outgoings don’t help him and anyone who asks nicely can go with his blessing. 

Waghorn offered a deal. I don’t see anyway that isn’t signed in all honesty, it’s a player he didn’t have a budget for but he seems to be making room for him. Nothing in the loan market and he doesn’t anticipate there to be for a while - he’s not keen on first loans. I guess that’s fair enough. Might be worth looking at who has been out on loan and done well in League One, or not so well in the Championship still available on the market. He did mention Middlesbrough which I thought was a tip towards Coburn, but could also be Barlaser. 

He mentioned that a striker he was in the market for, he pulled the plug on the deal as the numbers would’ve killed us. Rhodes came to mind. He did say 8 Championship clubs are in for said player, though, so maybe not. Also, two strikers we were in for have gone to other league one clubs - Ruben Rodrigues and Sam Smith would be my guess. He mentioned that he expects Oxford to be among the league front runners which makes me think Rodrigues. I believe he did also speak to Cole Stockton, maybe he was another one, he did say Burton have had a really good window. Who knows. 

He’s very high on Korey Smith and Connor Washington for the upcoming season. Bird, I get the impression, he believes can be a difference maker in an attacking role. We will see. 

Lastly, I got the impression that if we aren’t promoted this season that he may not be here next season. It was a flippant comment, but something about the club needing change if it doesn’t work and giving the keys to his car back(?) - definitely seems like players out of contract (Bird, Cashin, etc) aren’t signing their contract until they know where the club is going to be next season. 

I anticipate we will see some movement towards the back end of the window, unfortunately sounds like we’re hamstrung with our original agreement with the EFL unless we want to open that conversation again. 

Why the duck did we reach any agreement with the EFL that wasn't subject to change if we sold any players? 

On that basis any bids for any players we receive should automatically be refused , and we should have told Bristol to do one too. 

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17 minutes ago, Scott129 said:

I think this was it for me. Imagine if we were on a run of 5 successive losses and he was as jovial as he was tonight. Even today, to a lesser extent, I think a lot of people wanted some reassurance (what with the fruitless striker search and the bid for Max), and I'm just not sure if the tone was quite right.

Another part of it - and this is just a personal thing - is his use of business buzz words. I spend a lot of time at work dealing with 'Employee Engagement Specialists' and other trendy job titles talking about transformational cultures, etc etc. So to hear him call himself a 'Relationship Manager' just made me cringe 😂

I was conscious of the big time Charlie comments and not being able to cope with it.  I've raised it before as a potential issue as the size of club and the managing of shall we say robust personalities goes hand in hand. It becomes more of an issue if we go up. 

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