EnigmaRam Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 If that isn’t incentive to get out of the academy and into the first team to go to Spain instead I don’t know what is!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Back in the olden days Brian Laws used to bring his Scunthorpe team to our base for training. Was brilliant, the players used to mix with us in the NAFFI. That said I've done pre-season at Wolves and Chesterfield, it's a bit different these days 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Cruz Allen and Niall McAndrew ones too look out for I would say. angieram, Stuniverse and SKRam 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Jubbs said: Cruz Allen and Niall McAndrew ones too look out for I would say. Joining the ranks as first-year scholars are: Demiane Agustien, Cruz Allen, Luke Banks, Owen Eames, Tristan Gill, Isaac Gordon, Niall McAndrew, Adisa Osayande, Justin Oguntolu, Johnson Osong, Harley Price, Jack Thompson, Marsel Tola. The Rams’ second-year scholars are: Dajaune Brown, Daniel Cox, Jaydan Davidson, Harry Hawkins, Billy Gough, Jack Perry, Keilen Robinson, Farren Simons, Josh Shattell, Lennon Wheeldon. Jubbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jubbs said: Cruz Allen and Niall McAndrew ones too look out for I would say. I think it's a very talented crop of first year scholars this year, but potentially missing a CF, so Wheeldon may stay at that level for another year. You've picked out two very promising youngster, but the two who were regulars in the U18s last season were JThompson and Gill, both will no doubt be heavily involved with the U21s this season. Osong, Osayande, Eames, Banks, Tola, Oguntolu, Gordon, Augustien and Price all featured for the U18s too. Our youth squads potentially lining up something like this: U21s JThompson Bardell Bartley Cox Moore Radcliffe DRobinson Hawkins Moloney DBrown Davidson (Gill, Bates, Fapetu, Richards, Oseni) U18s Shattell Osayande Banks KRobinson Perry Eames Allen McAndrew Gough Simons Wheeldon (Price, IGordon, Tola, Oguntolu, Osong, Augustien) RoyMac5, InstaRam and Jubbs 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ghost of Clough said: I think it's a very talented crop of first year scholars this year, but potentially missing a CF, so Wheeldon may stay at that level for another year. You've picked out two very promising youngster, but the two who were regulars in the U18s last season were JThompson and Gill, both will no doubt be heavily involved with the U21s this season. Osong, Osayande, Eames, Banks, Tola, Oguntolu, Gordon, Augustien and Price all featured for the U18s too. Our youth squads potentially lining up something like this: U21s JThompson Bardell Bartley Cox Moore Radcliffe DRobinson Hawkins Moloney DBrown Davidson (Gill, Bates, Fapetu, Richards, Oseni) U18s Shattell Osayande Banks KRobinson Perry Eames Allen McAndrew Gough Simons Wheeldon (Price, IGordon, Tola, Oguntolu, Osong, Augustien) I think that is very much in line with what is planned if Harry Evans, the U21 'keeper goes out on loan, which is what is planned for his development. He and Jack Thompson are both highly rated from within. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Evans currently doing pre-season with Carlton Town FC. Heard they will look to give him a series of short loans to get him playing as far up the pyramid as quickly as possible for experience. I agree @Ghost of Cloughteams look about right but can see them taking at least 1 of the 2 u21 goalkeepers currently on trial. Taking so many first years will definitely help with numbers. I believe there is a decent number of u21 triallists in the building too. Seems like we are going to try and pick up some gems that have been released elsewhere and keep the budget down. Will Be interesting to see who gets the head coach job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 On 27/05/2023 at 06:10, Stuniverse said: I know I posted this in the 22/23 thread but I thought I'd post it again in the Academy Thread 23/24 for reference. I'm working on the U21 appearances and goals and will post that as well when I've finished it. U18s - appearances and goals 2022/23 Season Based on soccerway, cross-referenced with the Official Derby County website (where there was an U18 match report), these are the U18 appearances and goals stats for the 2022/23 Season as far as I can tell: Bumped so we can see the U18 appearance and goals scored numbers last season for the new scholars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 IslandExile, inter politics, Premier ram and 14 others 14 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Fantastic achievement, considering the last 12 months. SKRam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matlock Old Ram Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Tremendous news. Congratulations to all those involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warwick Ram Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 It is brilliant we have kept the category one status but in reality who have we actually produced? Will Hughes is a bit part player for Palace and he was probably our best rated academy product. Even going back 20 years we produced Chris Riggott but he never got past Middlesbrough, who were a mid table premier league team. The academy is seen as hugely important but have we really seen any benefits from it. It doesn’t help us in the here and now. It may help us in five years time but I doubt it. Any potential top class player will be poached (Delap and Gordon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 49 minutes ago, Warwick Ram said: It is brilliant we have kept the category one status but in reality who have we actually produced? Will Hughes is a bit part player for Palace and he was probably our best rated academy product. Even going back 20 years we produced Chris Riggott but he never got past Middlesbrough, who were a mid table premier league team. The academy is seen as hugely important but have we really seen any benefits from it. It doesn’t help us in the here and now. It may help us in five years time but I doubt it. Any potential top class player will be poached (Delap and Gordon). We have produced enough players to launch careers for several professional players, which is the main point of an academy. Not everyone is going to be the next Messi. The club obviously sees the long term benefit to producing young players, not just for the DCFC first team, but to give youngsters the start in the professional game and chances elsewhere in the football pyramid. Just because we haven't produced many Premier League regulars, doesn't mean there is no value. It's a tool for the future, so no need to dwell on the past (even though it has produced a team that won PL2 and more than matched up against some top European club academies). I always look forward to the youth team fixtures to see who the next player to break through might be. RoyMac5, ramit, Premier ram and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 54 minutes ago, Warwick Ram said: It is brilliant we have kept the category one status but in reality who have we actually produced? Will Hughes is a bit part player for Palace and he was probably our best rated academy product. Even going back 20 years we produced Chris Riggott but he never got past Middlesbrough, who were a mid table premier league team. The academy is seen as hugely important but have we really seen any benefits from it. It doesn’t help us in the here and now. It may help us in five years time but I doubt it. Any potential top class player will be poached (Delap and Gordon). It takes 10 years to get a true picture of value for money based on how long it takes a players to progress from the youngest age group just to the U18 and U21 levels. We have a lot of youth internationals in our academy. Jack Thompson is only a first year scholar for this upcoming season, but will be a regular in our U21 team and is already capped at England U17 level Stuniverse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jram Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 On 14/07/2023 at 13:49, Warwick Ram said: It is brilliant we have kept the category one status but in reality who have we actually produced? Will Hughes is a bit part player for Palace and he was probably our best rated academy product. Even going back 20 years we produced Chris Riggott but he never got past Middlesbrough, who were a mid table premier league team. The academy is seen as hugely important but have we really seen any benefits from it. It doesn’t help us in the here and now. It may help us in five years time but I doubt it. Any potential top class player will be poached (Delap and Gordon). I don’t think we’d have been able to field a team during admin without the quality the academy produces Stuniverse, We'll be back in 81, Indyram and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 35 minutes ago, Stuniverse said: Any idea who the trialists were? The lads from Rangers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 On 15/07/2023 at 18:54, Caerphilly Ram said: Any idea who the trialists were? The lads from Rangers? No. The only trialist I’ve seen confirmed is Charlie Lindsay (Rangers) but with reported interest from three Championship clubs, I’m not sure if Lindsay is still with us or not. It will be interesting to see what team a Derby County XI select tonight. With the first-team playing at Chesterfield tomorrow, it’s going to be a mix of U21s, U18s, and trialists. I’m looking forward to a good game of Guess the Trialist. Caerphilly Ram and RoyMac5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 I’m going to go down to this, see what faces we see. Stuniverse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 angieram, Premier ram and Will Hughes Hair 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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