Andrew3000 Posted June 9, 2023 Share Posted June 9, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledinDerby said: Jack Bates has signed as well. I don’t think the Arsenal lads brought enough personally. Talented enough but not PW type of player. Im confused. Jack off? No but we've retained the services of master bates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Is there still a Gordon brother in the academy? Kellan just posted a video of him, Kaide and a younger brother working out and the youngest had on a Derby top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Premier ram Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, angieram said: Is there still a Gordon brother in the academy? Kellan just posted a video of him, Kaide and a younger brother working out and the youngest had on a Derby top. Don’t think so Ange, I may be wrong, think there’s just Kellan and Kaide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Harford Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 There is 'a' Gordon in the U18's, Isaac. https://www.besoccer.com/player/i-gordon-3362819 angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 New Academy Manager Matt Hale signed from Southampton’s academy. This is a duplicate post on my part but made sense to pop it in the Academy Thread too. Hopefully this goes some way to reassuring people the academy is still a priority and to me seems like an exciting and forward thinking appointment as Saint’s academy has produced decent talent over the years, hasn’t it? RoyMac5, angieram, Eoghan1884 and 8 others 6 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 hours ago, angieram said: Is there still a Gordon brother in the academy? Kellan just posted a video of him, Kaide and a younger brother working out and the youngest had on a Derby top. Yes the youngest brother is in the academy still. U14/15 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 2 hours ago, Caerphilly Ram said: New Academy Manager Matt Hale signed from Southampton’s academy. This is a duplicate post on my part but made sense to pop it in the Academy Thread too. Hopefully this goes some way to reassuring people the academy is still a priority and to me seems like an exciting and forward thinking appointment as Saint’s academy has produced decent talent over the years, hasn’t it? Yes they have a strong youth philosophy around a target number of players each year such as 1 for the first team 1 for the division they are in and so many for the football league. Could be a good chance to redefine academy ethos and methods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gladram Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Interesting part in an article from Training Ground Guru "The Rams placed 39th in TGG’s Academy Productivity Rankings for 2021/22 - the third lowest Category One club (behind Stoke City and Burnley). The rankings place teams according to the number of professionals they produced who played in that season (from Premier League to National League level): https://trainingground.guru/articles/hale-appointed-derby-county-academy-manager Perhaps this is what they're looking to improve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, Gladram said: Interesting part in an article from Training Ground Guru "The Rams placed 39th in TGG’s Academy Productivity Rankings for 2021/22 - the third lowest Category One club (behind Stoke City and Burnley). The rankings place teams according to the number of professionals they produced who played in that season (from Premier League to National League level): https://trainingground.guru/articles/hale-appointed-derby-county-academy-manager Perhaps this is what they're looking to improve? Yes I would expect so. That’s the part that generates additional income for the club and what’s been a key part of the Southampton philosophy. it was only 5/6 years ago that Derby were in the top 10 of those rankings….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Gladram said: Interesting part in an article from Training Ground Guru "The Rams placed 39th in TGG’s Academy Productivity Rankings for 2021/22 - the third lowest Category One club (behind Stoke City and Burnley). The rankings place teams according to the number of professionals they produced who played in that season (from Premier League to National League level): https://trainingground.guru/articles/hale-appointed-derby-county-academy-manager Perhaps this is what they're looking to improve? Rankings based on English players, playing in English leagues, and not switching international allegiances. Knight (Irish), Buchanan (playing abroad), Ebosele (Irish and playing abroad) and Stretton (English but switched allegiance to Scotland) for example don't count. Productivity needs to improve, due to developing very few PL quality players. However, it's difficult to truly judge until around 2030 when players have progressed through the entirety of the academy system from start to finish and had chance to develop in first team games and reach their peak. angieram and Mick Harford 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roboto Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Ghost of Clough said: Rankings based on English players, playing in English leagues, and not switching international allegiances. Knight (Irish), Buchanan (playing abroad), Ebosele (Irish and playing abroad) and Stretton (English but switched allegiance to Scotland) for example don't count. Productivity needs to improve, due to developing very few PL quality players. However, it's difficult to truly judge until around 2030 when players have progressed through the entirety of the academy system from start to finish and had chance to develop in first team games and reach their peak. Plus, some of our best potential players being taken before they're even past u18 level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuniverse Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledinDerby said: Yes the youngest brother is in the academy still. U14/15 I think. Is he Isaac Gordon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal is a Ram Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Without knowing all too much about Southampton's academy - other than some of the players it has produced - Matt Hale seems to be a good move. To have spent a decade there would suggest good things too. From an article about a PL game in 2021 vs. Liverpool https://www.southamptonfc.com/en/news/article/hale-a-proud-moment-for-the-academy Quote It’s an achievement that highlights the development pathway in place at the club and which brings a great sense of pride to the Academy, as described by Hale. “We’ve had an academy objective for some time to try and get 50 per cent of the matchday squad made up of Academy graduates,” he said. Don't google just his name though, he does seem to have a rather unfortunate namesake from the US of A... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 hour ago, ExiledinDerby said: Yes I would expect so. That’s the part that generates additional income for the club and what’s been a key part of the Southampton philosophy. it was only 5/6 years ago that Derby were in the top 10 of those rankings….. Not those rankings we weren't at any time. Started in 2016/17: 2021/22 as quoted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Not those rankings we weren't at any time. Started in 2016/17: 2021/22 as quoted: I may have my years wrong but one year Derby hit top ten, or maybe over a combined period of years. Majority were lower league / conference but there was a few. I think it would have been around the Sibley / Bird generation time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Not those rankings we weren't at any time. Started in 2016/17: 2021/22 as quoted: How do you get 1.5 players..? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, ExiledinDerby said: I may have my years wrong but one year Derby hit top ten, or maybe over a combined period of years. Majority were lower league / conference but there was a few. I think it would have been around the Sibley / Bird generation time Not according to the stats being used for those tables, only four editions of them. Edit: 29th in the 20/21 was highest we made I think. Edited June 13, 2023 by RoyMac5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, ExiledinDerby said: How do you get 1.5 players..? 🤔 Play in more than one academy it seems according to the methodology above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 20/21 we were 29th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Hughes Hair Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 Did we score points for Emil Riis Jakobsen? I’m not even going to go near my annual laments for TME or Archie. I’m angieram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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