AndyinLiverpool Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, cstand said: Most celebrities will side with what will keep them in a future job they know how the cancel culture works in this country. Or perhaps people just want to support their friend. People do that, you know. Bob The Badger and Ram-Alf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, G STAR RAM said: See, you're even so clever that you've made a list! Did you do it on Excel? One tab for all of the 'thickies' and a separate tab for all of you cleverer ones? ? Don’t tell him Pike Edited March 11, 2023 by cstand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) The national newspapers have got their priorities right again I see. Gary Lineker plastered all over the front pages. Yet there's nowhere near enough pressure and scrutiny from the powers at the media hierarchy about the new immigration policy, which needs far more attention than a BBC presenter. I'm not his biggest fan, and I definitely don't agree with many of Gary Lineker's opinions. The BBC allowed their presenters to openly criticise Qatar for their human rights problems without any ramifications. Yet because he has questioned his own country's policy on this new immigration law, they've taken him off air until he says sorry. We're quiet happy to allow the berating of other countries, yet if the UK then it's all opinions nailed onto the fence. I love the idea of the BBC and how they take pride in promoting local issues. Local people still need their voices to be heard. It is a horrible organisation at board room level. They talk about impartial coverage yet they've got 2 board members who are deep in the heart of Conservative politics. How do they expect their presenters to keep the own political opinions to themselves, yet the top of the tree has clear bias towards a certain party. Good on the other BBC pundits to stand with their friend and colleague. Edited March 11, 2023 by SSD Sufferingfool, RoyMac5, GboroRam and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 15 hours ago, ramsbottom said: Well I for one won’t bother tuning into it tomorrow. I think the whole thing stinks. Especially when you think that supposed hardened journalists like Fiona Bruce & Laura Kussenberg have been giving The Tories an easy ride for years, and as for Andrew Neil… I bet all these bitter & twisted gammons, clutching at their pearls, demanding he was taken off the air, were dancing in the streets when he slotted in the equaliser against Germany at Italia 90. Hypocrites… Why does slotting the equaliser in against germany give him the right to call people that want the boats stopped nazis. He has got the money that it does not make any difference to him, waiting lists, housing ,energy bills. David Graham Brown, cstand and Ram-Alf 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: Or perhaps people just want to support their friend. People do that, you know. Let’s not beat about the bush the cancel culture of today is, you’re either with us or against us. Silence is compliance, agree or you are outcast. David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyMac5 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: And it’s a coincidence that the person pointing this out is someone who was already on a warning for past bias? a comment that tolerance can only be taken too far is not a sign of intolerance. Not being tolerant of criminality by the people traffickers and illegal immigrants …and people who risk their own lives and those of others .. that isn’t a bad thing to be intolerant of those things . That isn't an answer to the question posed - what is wrong with comparing 'speech' by the current Govt with 'speech' from the German Govt in the 1930s? ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cstand Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) Yvette Cooper does not agree with Linekers comments and stated the Labour Party will stop the boats. Edited March 11, 2023 by cstand David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, G STAR RAM said: Probably because the BBC is packed with champagne socialists and box tickers who are probably afraid of being ostracised for stepping into his shoes? He certainly didn't seem well liked by his ex wife, who accused him of unreasonable behaviour and causing her stress and anxiety, and I'd imagine having being married to him for 20 years she would know him as well as anyone? Champagne socialist is such a nonsense term. It implies that nobody successful could possibly empathise or support the cause of anyone less fortunate than them. It is designed to invalidate the opinion of anyone that can't be attacked with the 'politics of envy' line. Edited March 11, 2023 by JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Rev, GboroRam, Comrade 86 and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andicis Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Opened up a bit of a can of worms this. They've let people such as Lord Sugar speak openly about their politics with no issue, but have clamped down on Lineker. Either all of it is okay, or none of it is. They've managed it the worst way possible here. That being said, it is generally unwise to invoke Godwin's law if you are trying to make a nuanced point. GboroRam, Comrade 86 and ariotofmyown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FindernRam Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I look forward to not seeing the pundits! It has long turned into a an old boys club with the occasional "diversity" addition. Very rarely worth listening to. Maybe they will show a few minutes of extra football instead. I see no way back for Lineker now. Irreconcilable breakdown of relations. Kathcairns and David Graham Brown 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Kathcairns said: Why does slotting the equaliser in against germany give him the right to call people that want the boats stopped nazis. He has got the money that it does not make any difference to him, waiting lists, housing ,energy bills. Stopping the boats, or reducing them, would involve supplying immigration and border services with the resources, manpower and skills to deal with immigrants in a timely fashion. But that's not as punchy as coming up with a nonsense message that is legally, practically and morally incompatible with reality is it? I'm straying in to politics too much here so might fall foul of the mods but I don't really care at this point. Block me, mute me, whatever. This government is vile and I pitty anyone being strung along by this hateful, unworkable and obviously not happening stop the boats nonsense. Rant over. I'll leave it there. Edited March 11, 2023 by JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Rev and RoyMac5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Actually, one more thing. A meme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/suella-braverman-wants-to-cleanse-the-civil-service-guess-who-tried-that-in-the-1930s/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i-Ram Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Champagne socialist is such a nonsense term. It implies that nobody successful could possibly empathise or support the cause of anyone less fortunate than them. It is designed to invalidate the opinion of anyone that can't be attacked with the 'politics of envy' line. Shshss. Don’t tell everyone ? ariotofmyown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, PistoldPete said: And it has often been remarked on how reasonable many of Hitlers speeches seemed at that time. That doesn’t mean it is remotely acceptable to liken reasonable comments made by todays politicians to reasonable comments made by Hitler. Those who lived under Hitler rule...my Mothers family...who she said and I quote..."life was better for the working people" once they had the plebiscite or Austrian Anschluss, As the War drew on it wasn't so good, Food was in very short supply as rationing started in early 1940, My Grandfather Joseph was a station master and a thief as he made sure he got the food he thought he should have from the rail network. Quoting this shyte Government to what the Nazis did is like taking a choc ice to knock an oak tree down. I neither know or care about Lineker and the support he's been given, Just another divide to split opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Not just MOTD ... https://www.theguardian.com/media/2023/mar/10/david-attenborough-bbc-wild-isles-episode-rightwing-backlash-fears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kathcairns Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta said: Stopping the boats, or reducing them, would involve supplying immigration and border services with the resources, manpower and skills to deal with immigrants in a timely fashion. But that's not as punchy as coming up with a nonsense message that is legally, practically and morally incompatible with reality is it? I'm straying in to politics too much here so might fall foul of the mods but I don't really care at this point. Block me, mute me, whatever. This government is vile and I pitty anyone being strung along by this hateful, unworkable and obviously not happening stop the boats nonsense. Rant over. I'll leave it there. Welcome labour then who are anti jewish, by the way im not a conservative. Dont vote now cause all the parties are just out for theirselves. Will leave it there. Archied, David Graham Brown and Ram-Alf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Kathcairns said: Welcome labour then who are anti jewish, by the way im not a conservative. Dont vote now cause all the parties are just out for theirselves. Will leave it there. Labour and the Tories are two cheeks of the same arse. The entirety of Westminster needs turning upside down. That's the only way forward that won't result in more if the same. Archied, Kathcairns, Ram-Alf and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondest Goat Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, G STAR RAM said: Would be interesting to see what his ex wives thought about that assertion What a pathetic comment. Some people come across like they just can't bare anyone who shows any compassion or humanity. They can't possibly believe that anyone does anything that's not entirely motivated by self interest and must therefore be a hypocrite. What miserable lives they must lead. Edited March 11, 2023 by Blondest Goat . May Contain Nuts, Comrade 86, Archied and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Can he (or anyone in similar situation) say what they want then? The supporters falling in behind big ears presumably are doing so partly as they agree with him on the topic.. If it was something Clarksonesque then none of this would be happening ?♂️? David Graham Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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