Torquay v Derby (A) Matchday Thread

[Rammy03]

No complaints about the penalty but Forsyth was there, shocking decision to give a red. Probably caved in under the pressure because he didn't give the Sibley one.

[LazloW]

Hmm.  Obviously penalty, but not convinced about the red.  It isn't automatically a red because you give a penalty away when not a 'genuine challenge' so surely Forsyth's proximity to the ball (insofar as he took it off the striker's foot) is surely a material consideration?  Oh well, academic now.  

[Srg]

Just now, Andrew1 said:

No challenge for the ball - red cad

silly challenge

Yeah, if he was last man. He wasn’t. 

[rammieib]

1 minute ago, Leeds Ram said:

that is the danger when you give any team the time we did in midfield to them. All it takes is one pass to open you up... never a red card though as Forsyth was covering the player for me.

Clear red. Forsyth was nowhere near. One touch to control and he has a free shot.

[one_chop]

Yet another game involving a penalty.

[cosmic]

1 minute ago, DiggerB said:

Hasn't looked comfortable all afternoon to be honest

He got clattered in the first 30 seconds and never once looked composed afterwards.

[IncredibleKoosh]

How wasn't that another corner..?

[oomarkwright]

1 minute ago, LittleEatonRam said:

Red cards aren't judged on whether there is an attempt to play the ball. He was sent off for being the last man when he wasn't.

No. If there's no genuine attempt to win the ball you can be sent off so good decision. 

[Rich3478]

1 minute ago, LittleEatonRam said:

Red cards aren't judged on whether there is an attempt to play the ball. He was sent off for being the last man when he wasn't.

They are though? If is a genuine attempt to play the ball, is only a penalty and a yellow. If no attempt at the ball is a penalty and a red.

[JuanFloEvraTheCocu'sNesta]

Only just noticed that Hayden Roberts has the biggest chin I have ever seen.

[Mr Tibbs]

“Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."

Its a red. 

[TheresOnlyWanChope]

Wondering what’s all time record for penalties conceded in a season? This could be a record breaking season if it carries on at this rate. Never known a Derby team to concede penalties like this. Truly bizarre 

[Ram1988]

How many penos do we give away? one a game recently madness

[Yani P]

1 minute ago, LittleEatonRam said:

Red cards aren't judged on whether there is an attempt to play the ball. He was sent off for being the last man when he wasn't.

Not sure the ref had a great view...looked to me like the pull started outside the box in which case it was a red but no penalty..

[Rammy03]

2 minutes ago, Andrew1 said:

No challenge for the ball - red cad

silly challenge

Those aren't the rules

[SSD]

Deserved the red for the stupidity and complete lack of game management. Have zero sympathy for the lad sadly. Completely needless foul.

[Guest]

Just now, Mr Tibbs said:

“Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."

Its a red. 

Yup!

[Caerphilly Ram]

1 minute ago, LazloW said:

Hmm.  Obviously penalty, but not convinced about the red.  It isn't automatically a red because you give a penalty away when not a 'genuine challenge' so surely Forsyth's proximity to the ball (insofar as he took it off the striker's foot) is surely a material consideration?  Oh well, academic now.  

Academic in terms of the game but maybe mitigation to appeal and have it overturned? 

[Rammy03]

1 minute ago, Mr Tibbs said:

“Where a player commits an offence against an opponent within their own penalty area which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity and the referee awards a penalty kick, the offender is cautioned if the offence was an attempt to play the ball; in all other circumstances (e.g. holding, pulling, pushing, no possibility to play the ball etc.) the offending player must be sent off."

Its a red. 

But was it an obvious goal scoring opportunity? Forsyth could have got a block in

[Anag Ram]

Forsyth wouldn’t get into their team if he played like this every week