rammieib Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 I think we have no choice but to put Smith in the middle. We need that individual to hold and break the game up a little and to be at least comfortable taking the ball of the back line. Rooney was excellent at RB against Barnsley in the Cup. I'd give him a chance at RB. Crewton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, RamLad1884 said: Assuming no ins today though I would expect Smith in midfield and Rooney at right back for the rest of the season. Bloody hell, how long is Bird out for? 48 hours 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carnero Posted January 31, 2023 Share Posted January 31, 2023 1 hour ago, angieram said: Bloody hell, how long is Bird out for? Warne estimated between 2-8 weeks last night, depending on the scan results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caerphilly Ram Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 4-5 weeks according to Warne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Caerphilly Ram said: 4-5 weeks according to Warne So he will probably miss the Plymouth game which could be crucial. jimtastic56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 (edited) On 31/01/2023 at 14:37, Curtains said: The lad has been brilliant for us . Love the guy and hope he’s back soon. He opitimises (sp) the best of Derby County Much like yourself @Curtains (twice I've used that gif today but appropriate on both occasions) Edited February 2, 2023 by IslandExile Curtains and SKRam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Contain Nuts Posted February 3, 2023 Share Posted February 3, 2023 On 31/01/2023 at 12:39, Ghost of Clough said: If Tommo doesn't get a chance to start now, it feels like he never will If he wanted to make it here he should have focused on his attention on improving his footballing abilities over the summer, rather than his baking skills. The Scarlet Pimpernel, angieram, Premier ram and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RoyMac5 Posted February 15, 2023 Author Share Posted February 15, 2023 Missing Birdy big time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Sagan Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 8 minutes ago, RoyMac5 said: Missing Birdy big time. I disagree. This seems one of the (many) times when Derby players improve once they're out of the team. My take is we'd quite possibly have had a better midfield this season without Bird and Hourihane. When Smith played in Bird's position we seemed better. If we kept the same formation but played White there, there's a possibility we'd be better. I would love these midfielders we think are talented to have dominated the league this year, but they simply haven't, which is why I think there's a better balance and combination to be found from Bird, Hourihane, Knight, Smith, Sibley, White, Rooney than has been selected so far. tinman and LazloW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 17 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: I disagree. This seems one of the (many) times when Derby players improve once they're out of the team. My take is we'd quite possibly have had a better midfield this season without Bird and Hourihane. When Smith played in Bird's position we seemed better. If we kept the same formation but played White there, there's a possibility we'd be better. I would love these midfielders we think are talented to have dominated the league this year, but they simply haven't, which is why I think there's a better balance and combination to be found from Bird, Hourihane, Knight, Smith, Sibley, White, Rooney than has been selected so far. Many of appreciated Bird before he was injured. Wycombe, Lincoln and the first 40 mins v Morecambe were poor. Hourihane is coming too deep for his skill set and we are conceding too may chances, particularly on the break. Bird breaks much of that up. I don't think we have a perfectly balanced midfield, but Bird has been our best midfield player this season and it was noticeable that as soon as he was injured, replacing him became the January priority. Zag zig, Curtains, RoyMac5 and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, Carl Sagan said: I disagree. This seems one of the (many) times when Derby players improve once they're out of the team. My take is we'd quite possibly have had a better midfield this season without Bird and Hourihane. When Smith played in Bird's position we seemed better. If we kept the same formation but played White there, there's a possibility we'd be better. I would love these midfielders we think are talented to have dominated the league this year, but they simply haven't, which is why I think there's a better balance and combination to be found from Bird, Hourihane, Knight, Smith, Sibley, White, Rooney than has been selected so far. So Bird has been out and we have struggled in the last 2 games. I think you underestimate his ability and importance to the team . He is a leader . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, sage said: Many of appreciated Bird before he was injured. Wycombe, Lincoln and the first 40 mins v Morecambe were poor. Hourihane is coming too deep for his skill set and we are conceding too may chances, particularly on the break. Bird breaks much of that up. I don't think we have a perfectly balanced midfield, but Bird has been our best midfield player this season and it was noticeable that as soon as he was injured, replacing him became the January priority. Exactly. White looks a good addition though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 Funnily enough, we are actually more successful without Bird on the pitch as shown by the highlighted section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 2 minutes ago, Jubbs said: Funnily enough, we are actually more successful without Bird on the pitch as shown by the highlighted section. He’s played 2315 minutes. These stats are meaningless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jubbs Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Curtains said: He’s played 2315 minutes. These stats are meaningless And on those 385+ minutes that he isn't on the pitch, we've done better than when he was. Yes, it's difficult because he's played the 4th highest minutes out of everyone, but it's still useful and interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jubbs said: And on those 385+ minutes that he isn't on the pitch, we've done better than when he was. Yes, it's difficult because he's played the 4th highest minutes out of everyone, but it's still useful and interesting. So which teams did we play when he wasn’t on the pitch ! Home or away etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/max-bird/leistungsdaten/spieler/486464 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Tibbs Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 I don't think Bird would have made much of a difference last night. He can't control and pass it for the other 10 players. He'd just be in the same position Cashin and then White were in - loads of the ball with nothing in front of him to pass to. I think he's better than White so his return will be key but his replacement needs a few games under his belt until we get a proper feel for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Curtains Posted February 15, 2023 Share Posted February 15, 2023 29 minutes ago, Jubbs said: And on those 385+ minutes that he isn't on the pitch, we've done better than when he was. Yes, it's difficult because he's played the 4th highest minutes out of everyone, but it's still useful and interesting. Not meaning to dismiss your views on this but I just don’t agree. Max has taken time to adjust to League 1 so has struggled at times but I see him as a big asset for the playoff campaign going forward Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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