Bris Vegas Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Bottom three after two games. Everton West Ham Man Utd What do they all have in common? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Bottom three after two games. Everton West Ham Man Utd What do they all have in common? They have all got 0 points. Do I win!?! Day and TimRam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 minute ago, maxjam said: They have all got 0 points. Do I win!?! Not the answer I was looking for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyBritishMidland Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Bottom three after two games. Everton West Ham Man Utd What do they all have in common? David Moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Bottom three after two games. Everton West Ham Man Utd What do they all have in common? David Moyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 minute ago, FlyBritishMidland said: David Moyes Pffft, spoil sport we could have dragged that out a bit longer. My next guess was going to be they are all crap! FlyBritishMidland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Bottom three after two games. Everton West Ham Man Utd What do they all have in common? They are all inferior to at least one other team from the same city? Bris Vegas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjam Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 28 minutes ago, Bris Vegas said: Bottom three after two games. Everton West Ham Man Utd What do they all have in common? They all contain 2 different vowels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oomarkwright Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 03/08/2022 at 14:35, Bris Vegas said: Liverpool to win the league City, Spurs and Arsenal to make top four. Fulham, Bournemouth and Forest to go down. This is looking good already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bris Vegas Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, oomarkwright said: This is looking good already. No bueno Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 I know everyone is focused on Man U and getting over excited, but I’m quietly a bit fascinated with Liverpool and their start to the season too. I know they have had a few changes in personnel, but it’s whether those changes are going to be better than what they had. If I was a Liverpool fan the big concern for me is that they are still playing in the style when they league two season ago and whether that’s now becoming a bit stale, especially when City have made tweaks and have clearly improved on what hey had. It’s obviously too early in the season to really have too much of an opinion (much like it is with Man U btw!), but I do wonder how much has Kloppball now been worked out and whether Klopp is willing to change. What I do get a sense of around those who associate with Liverpool as well is that there is now a lot more expectation and a bit of cockiness which I don’t think helps. Who knows, they could go on a winning steak now, I just sense there are other teams (City + Arsenal especially) that come across far more prepared for this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van der MoodHoover Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Wasn't Kloppball that gegenpressing thing that many others have now copied? Credit Klopp for doing something new, but a bit like bielsa, can he evolve further or is he a busted flush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crewton Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: Who knows, they could go on a winning steak now, I just sense there are other teams (City + Arsenal especially) that come across far more prepared for this season. A winning steak with Mo Salad on/in the side? Van der MoodHoover and Turk Thrust 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Van der MoodHoover said: Wasn't Kloppball that gegenpressing thing that many others have now copied? Credit Klopp for doing something new, but a bit like bielsa, can he evolve further or is he a busted flush? I think the weird thing is this is what Rowettball was striving to be at Derby, but you need the players to do it or else it becomes a quite boring and negative style. I mean I don’t even consider Liverpool and entertaining side to watch when they are at their best, but it gets worse when you add in championship players doing it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 30 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: I think the weird thing is this is what Rowettball was striving to be at Derby, but you need the players to do it or else it becomes a quite boring and negative style. I mean I don’t even consider Liverpool and entertaining side to watch when they are at their best, but it gets worse when you add in championship players doing it! Could not disagree with this much more. Rowett was literally nothing like anything Klopp has ever done tactically. rynny, Rammy03, Anon and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TuffLuff Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 Just now, Srg said: Could not disagree with this much more. Rowett was literally nothing like anything Klopp has ever done tactically. There’s a huge difference in what Rowett wanted t do and what he could do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted August 16, 2022 Author Share Posted August 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: I think the weird thing is this is what Rowettball was striving to be at Derby, but you need the players to do it or else it becomes a quite boring and negative style. I mean I don’t even consider Liverpool and entertaining side to watch when they are at their best, but it gets worse when you add in championship players doing it! Liverpool are the most entertaining team to watch in the Premier League by far. Rowettball is in a completely different library to the Klopp tactical book, the only similarities if you were to pull is that both managers ask the players to kick a football. FlyBritishMidland and Rammy03 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srg Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 23 minutes ago, TuffLuff said: There’s a huge difference in what Rowett wanted t do and what he could do. So, 442, defensive, long ball, knock downs etc vs. 433, very high line, extreme pressing... There's no similarities whatsoever other than it's football. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 4 hours ago, TuffLuff said: I think the weird thing is this is what Rowettball was striving to be at Derby, but you need the players to do it or else it becomes a quite boring and negative style. I mean I don’t even consider Liverpool and entertaining side to watch when they are at their best, but it gets worse when you add in championship players doing it! I'm with Srg on this one. I see where you're coming from in that Rowett wanted to hit teams on the counter and quickly shift the ball forwards, but this was always from deep. There was no pressing high by our forwards and midfield and I saw nothing that made me think Rowett intended to do this. Carl Sagan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTedd Posted August 16, 2022 Share Posted August 16, 2022 8 hours ago, TuffLuff said: I know everyone is focused on Man U and getting over excited, but I’m quietly a bit fascinated with Liverpool and their start to the season too. I know they have had a few changes in personnel, but it’s whether those changes are going to be better than what they had. If I was a Liverpool fan the big concern for me is that they are still playing in the style when they league two season ago and whether that’s now becoming a bit stale, especially when City have made tweaks and have clearly improved on what hey had. It’s obviously too early in the season to really have too much of an opinion (much like it is with Man U btw!), but I do wonder how much has Kloppball now been worked out and whether Klopp is willing to change. What I do get a sense of around those who associate with Liverpool as well is that there is now a lot more expectation and a bit of cockiness which I don’t think helps. Who knows, they could go on a winning steak now, I just sense there are other teams (City + Arsenal especially) that come across far more prepared for this season. Man Utd vs Liverpool next week. Somethings got to give. Whoever wins, the other has had a terrible start to the season. If it’s a draw, they both have. Rammy03 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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