1967RAMS Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 There are no viable ground share options. With the level of outlay any buyer of the club will need to commit to. They will need 23 k plus crowds at home. We will only get that at PP. pointless thread Rammy03, Tamworthram and strawhillram 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Dastard Lee Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 At one time Meadow Lane was known as 'Pickering Park' as they used the money they received from Lionel for Tommy Johnson and Craig Short to improve it, so it seems appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 4 hours ago, DCFC27 said: To be fair playing at Forest is probably the easiest solution from a practicality point of view. We could clash with Notts county as their average attendance is about 6000 whereas derby and Forest would be too much on the same day and it’s very difficult to arrange 3 teams not to play at home on the same day. attendance would be fine and it’s the closest to us. Unfortunately, it means sharing with our biggest rivals but I’m not going to lie I’d much prefer to play in Nottingham than Stoke or Leicester. Rather ground share with Aberdeen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skin em Ted Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 6 hours ago, alexxxxx said: They'd never be able to sort out the fixtures so it all worked for either forest or county. I could swallow my pride and watch Derby at home at the city ground but I don't think that many others could haha. I think it'd have to be Leicester.. I could stomach it if needs must. Just think of the vomit rising to the back of every fuming forest fans’ throats as us dirty Derby bamfords bounce around their place in a sea of black and white whilst they’re out…especially hilarious if we could beat their crowds! Ken Tram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritstone Tup Posted May 8, 2022 Share Posted May 8, 2022 8 hours ago, Ram1988 said: If talks between Mel and Chris Kirchner break down and no deal can be meet between them (with or without the City Council) for Pride Park and he decides to push ahead where would everyone like to see us play our home games next season? Chesterfield ?- to keep us in Derbyshire Burton ? - Just down the road on the A38 Notts County Ground ? - local 19/20,000 seater ground Stoke ? - May be keep to ground share given their financial fair play situation Chesterfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost of Clough Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 13 hours ago, SBW said: There's no way on this planet Notts Police agree to having Derby play at Meadow Lane, no chance on earth. I find it odd people would also even want to play in Nottingham? If it's a case of club or no club, Chesterfield is the best choice. I know attendance isn't ideal, but needs must, the situation isn't based on things being ideal anyway... Chesterfield are a community owned club too, so i'd suspect they'd be more than happy for the extra income. Chesterfield? May as well make it Bramall Lane or Hillsborough based on time to get there from Derby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BramcoteRam84 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 With the leverage games Mel is now playing in discussions think this possibility is now off the table. We need someone to buy the ground otherwise, starting to think it could be liquidation. It could be just high stakes negotiation play from Mel, but I really don’t think he will do all he can to solve his mess and save the club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WystonRam Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) Could we add some temporary stands to Moorways and play there ? It was once planned to be http://www.duckworthsquare.com/derby/dhc.htm Edited May 9, 2022 by WystonRam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBRammette Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 23 minutes ago, WystonRam said: Could we add some temporary stands to Moorways and play there ? It was once planned to be http://www.duckworthsquare.com/derby/dhc.htm Not sure they would cope with the jumping around or bounce. New thing to go wrong though as we've not had a H&S issue or fine. Bingo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Hasn't the possibility of ground sharing been ruled out because of Mel's loans to the club being dependent on continued use of Pride Park? So, it's not even a possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestLondonRam Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, IslandExile said: Hasn't the possibility of ground sharing been ruled out because of Mel's loans to the club being dependent on continued use of Pride Park? So, it's not even a possibility. That's Mel's loan not Derby's if I understand it right. He took that loan out against the company that owns Pride Park which isn't Derby County. Either way it should in future be made into a Heritage site or a Local site of Interest to stop people from taking it away from the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IslandExile Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, WestLondonRam said: That's Mel's loan not Derby's if I understand it right. He took that loan out against the company that owns Pride Park which isn't Derby County. Either way it should in future be made into a Heritage site or a Local site of Interest to stop people from taking it away from the club. No, I don't mean the MSD loan. BTW that's the club's loan, just with the guarantee placed on the ground. I mean the loans that Mel has directly to the club. As I understand it, that's how owners fund football clubs. Mel, Abramovich etc lend the club money rather than gift it to them. I thought someone had explained that Mel can claim £100+ million back off the club if they stop using Pride Park. But will otherwise write it off. Perhaps I misinterpreted the post but that's how I read it. So it means, in effect, we cannot move or ground share. Tamworthram and Ken Tram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBW Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Chesterfield? May as well make it Bramall Lane or Hillsborough based on time to get there from Derby. The team is called Derby County not Derby City. There's loads of Rams up that way. sheeponacid and Wolfie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
angieram Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 2 hours ago, IslandExile said: No, I don't mean the MSD loan. BTW that's the club's loan, just with the guarantee placed on the ground. I mean the loans that Mel has directly to the club. As I understand it, that's how owners fund football clubs. Mel, Abramovich etc lend the club money rather than gift it to them. I thought someone had explained that Mel can claim £100+ million back off the club if they stop using Pride Park. But will otherwise write it off. Perhaps I misinterpreted the post but that's how I read it. So it means, in effect, we cannot move or ground share. That's exactly right. That's what the impasse is. Mel will insist on calling in his investment in the club in full, if we don't continue to use the ground, either by buying or renting it off him. Even if we were only to pay 25% of that, it's at least another 30 million. He has us over a barrel and he knows it. RoyMac5 and IslandExile 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram1988 Posted May 9, 2022 Author Share Posted May 9, 2022 21 minutes ago, angieram said: That's exactly right. That's what the impasse is. Mel will insist on calling in his investment in the club in full, if we don't continue to use the ground, either by buying or renting it off him. Even if we were only to pay 25% of that, it's at least another 30 million. He has us over a barrel and he knows it. The rumours on Twitter last night was that some local third party local businesses men were trying to look to offer a deal for PP. I hope there was some truth to this as its all gone quiet around the council buying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 16 minutes ago, angieram said: That's exactly right. That's what the impasse is. Mel will insist on calling in his investment in the club in full, if we don't continue to use the ground, either by buying or renting it off him. Even if we were only to pay 25% of that, it's at least another 30 million. He has us over a barrel and he knows it. Which leaves us being liquidated and Ashley picking up the corpse - it seems the only way because no one can afford all these extra costs unless it’s a nation state - very very gloomy time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WharfedaleRam Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 9 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Chesterfield? May as well make it Bramall Lane or Hillsborough based on time to get there from Derby. Why not go the whole hog and ground share with Harrogate. I'll be home before the players have left the pitch! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wignall12 Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 11 hours ago, Ghost of Clough said: Chesterfield? May as well make it Bramall Lane or Hillsborough based on time to get there from Derby. Hillsborough would be a laugh . We could show them how to fill a ground !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffieldram Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 Hillsborough would be great....15 minutes drive away!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean (hick) Saunders Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 What about Port Stanley FC.. (I’ll get my… Warm… Coat) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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