kevinhectoring Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 7 hours ago, RodleyRam said: Dodged a nuke here. The regulation around football ownership is insufficient. If clubs are genuinely considered community assets, then the fit and proper persons test needs more teeth. We are indebted to whoever stopped the sale going through but let's be clear, it wasn't any of the people who it should have been and that's alarming. we almost certainly dodged a nuke But how are the regulators supposed to know - that he might be diddling his investors - that he’s in cahoots with uncle Paul (whose finger was on the nuclear button) The signs were there for all of us to see - he’s supposed to be full time CEO of a fast growing company and yet he spends half his time schmoozing golfers and doing wheelies around Dubai in his jet. Oh and his area of ‘expertise’ is sales It’s as harsh to blame the regulators as it is to blame the fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 On 26/07/2022 at 12:54, TigerTedd said: But didn’t the system work? They went through various checks and measures, including the fit and proper persons test, but when it came to the last one, show us the money, he got cold feet and pulled out. So surely something in that last test caught something that was missed in all the others, that’s why it exists. So the point is, he didn’t end up owning us, so the system works. the depressing thing is how much time was wasted coming to that conclusion. Not sure it was down to "the system"? Not the football system anyway. Not Q's System. Nor DCFC system, or EFL system. Those systems were all sat twiddling their thumbs waiting for the bag of money to arrive. They literally sat waiting! Rumour has it, that it was some sort of international financial money-laundering system that put a spanner (sorry... "wrench") in CK's works by holding up/stopping said transfer of funds. Either that, or there was no money. Either way, it appears that it wasn't down to any system related to UK Football. ?♂️ TigerTedd and G STAR RAM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, kevinhectoring said: we almost certainly dodged a nuke But how are the regulators supposed to know - that he might be diddling his investors - that he’s in cahoots with uncle Paul (whose finger was on the nuclear button) The signs were there for all of us to see - he’s supposed to be full time CEO of a fast growing company and yet he spends half his time schmoozing golfers and doing wheelies around Dubai in his jet. Oh and his area of ‘expertise’ is sales It’s as harsh to blame the regulators as it is to blame the fans It should have been a requirement of being a PB that he lodge a deposit (at the every least a returnable deposit ) as proof that the money is for real. alram 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistoldPete Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 43 minutes ago, Mucker1884 said: Not sure it was down to "the system"? Not the football system anyway. Not Q's System. Nor DCFC system, or EFL system. Those systems were all sat twiddling their thumbs waiting for the bag of money to arrive. They literally sat waiting! Rumour has it, that it was some sort of international financial money-laundering system that put a spanner (sorry... "wrench") in CK's works by holding up/stopping said transfer of funds. Either that, or there was no money. Either way, it appears that it wasn't down to any system related to UK Football. ?♂️ Thats what Nixon said. But maybe the money laundering checks were just an excuse like the bank holidays. Blame the banks for the fact you haven't got any cash. Mucker1884 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Closed his Twitter account again. Would appear he’s trying to go off the radar again. Note the name in the URL of his Facebook account. https://www.facebook.com/christopher.kirchner Carnero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, PistoldPete said: It should have been a requirement of being a PB that he lodge a deposit (at the every least a returnable deposit ) as proof that the money is for real. I said this at the time, but for different reasons Don’t think there’s any doubt the money was real. As was the money that paid the May wage bill. That wasn’t the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: we almost certainly dodged a nuke But how are the regulators supposed to know - that he might be diddling his investors - that he’s in cahoots with uncle Paul (whose finger was on the nuclear button) The signs were there for all of us to see - he’s supposed to be full time CEO of a fast growing company and yet he spends half his time schmoozing golfers and doing wheelies around Dubai in his jet. Oh and his area of ‘expertise’ is sales It’s as harsh to blame the regulators as it is to blame the fans He pulled a fast one with a worldwide investment bank, it’s easy to blame the football authorities but at the end of the day nobody spotted it who had contact with him, must have been an incredible blagger all his tweets make me want to vomit Edited July 30, 2022 by alram The Key Club King 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, alram said: all his tweets make me want to vomit hope you’ve got one of the waterproof phones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alram Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, David said: Closed his Twitter account again. Would appear he’s trying to go off the radar again. Note the name in the URL of his Facebook account. https://www.facebook.com/christopher.kirchner Charley Varrick is about a bank robber who is on the run RoyMac5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, alram said: Charley Varrick is about a bank robber who is on the run Played by Walter Mathau...good film...substitute Mathau for Mitty and boom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: we almost certainly dodged a nuke But how are the regulators supposed to know - that he might be diddling his investors - that he’s in cahoots with uncle Paul (whose finger was on the nuclear button) The signs were there for all of us to see - he’s supposed to be full time CEO of a fast growing company and yet he spends half his time schmoozing golfers and doing wheelies around Dubai in his jet. Oh and his area of ‘expertise’ is sales It’s as harsh to blame the regulators as it is to blame the fans Not saying I have the answers but the examples of dodgy football owners comes up with alarming regularity. I'm really saying that there needs to be a total change in football governance and regulation to mitigate against the issues we have faced in the last two years. Not sure I understand the reference comparing regulators and fans. It isn't the fans responsibility to protect clubs against these issues. We aren't the first, we won't be the last, therefore something needs to change to resolve the systemic issues that we have in the game. It's costing people jobs and causing enormous turmoil. We deserve better. May Contain Nuts, kevinhectoring, Ramrob and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinhectoring Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, RodleyRam said: Not sure I understand the reference comparing regulators and fans. It isn't the fans responsibility to protect clubs against these issues. Fair comment I was alluding to the fact that most derby fans had no concerns about the dodgy combination of stretford and CK, and no concerns that stretford and Rooney had in effect picked the PB. But with hindsight we had a lucky escape. Regulators don’t have 20:20 vision either Ramarena 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodleyRam Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, kevinhectoring said: Fair comment I was alluding to the fact that most derby fans had no concerns about the dodgy combination of stretford and CK, and no concerns that stretford and Rooney had in effect picked the PB. But with hindsight we had a lucky escape. Regulators don’t have 20:20 vision either No, fair point. Fans are by default emotionally invested and therefore less able to provide an objective view, most were just relieved that the club appeared to be saved. Most fans would only have been able to access the external image CK et al wanted to present and put faith in admins and regulators to do the necessary due diligence. I don't think regulators have sufficient teeth and the EFL isn't fit for purpose at this point in my view. It's obviously highly complex, I just think there has to be a better way. RamuelLJackson and kevinhectoring 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramarena Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 It’ll be interesting to see how this pans out. Oddly (for all their corporate worship) Americans treat this sort of thing very seriously, it can even end in jail time………..the complete opposite to here, where it’s a slap on the wrist and place in the House of Lords! Ram-Alf and Reggie Greenwood 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Ram Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Can’t we just erase this from our memory and move on now ? Premier ram and Tamworthram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramrob Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Jimbo Ram said: Can’t we just erase this from our memory and move on now ? Erase what from our memory? ? kevinhectoring and Jimbo Ram 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Logan Josh Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 The first 10 pages of this topic are full of "Chris this", "Chris that". In the following 17 pages, since the first week in May, there's not a single post that refers to him as Chris. It's all CK or Kirchner. Hardly surprising. Shyster. RamuelLJackson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFD1968 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Just thought you'd all be interested in this .. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidjeans/2022/07/25/slync-ceo-chris-kirchner-suspended/?sh=6d9655172fe4 We dodged a major bullet, as it now seems he might have been trying to buy us with very dodgy funds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthram Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Merge this one with the existing thread about Kitchener? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 (edited) Merged ? Edited August 1, 2022 by Unlucky Alf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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