ziggyram59 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I'm really sick of the likes of Thomas Tuchel(Chelsea), Jurgen Klopp(Liverpool), and Pep Guardiola whining about how they don't have enough players, not enough subs, they should have had a penalty, play far to many games over a certain period at Christmas, Tuchel is the worst without a doubt. One thing about Cloughie you would never hear him moan about these matters. LazloW, RoyMac5, Papahet and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparkle Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 (edited) Chelsea seem to have about 60 players as well - what’s the point of having those under 23s Edited December 30, 2021 by Sparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaspode Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 And you can guarantee that if they get the mid-season break that they all so desperately want, they will immediately arrange foreign tours to generate more revenue….. If the clubs at the top are struggling to play so many games they are absolutely welcome to resign from the Champions League…. RadioactiveWaste, FlyBritishMidland, RoyMac5 and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 21 minutes ago, Gaspode said: And you can guarantee that if they get the mid-season break that they all so desperately want, they will immediately arrange foreign tours to generate more revenue….. If the clubs at the top are struggling to play so many games they are absolutely welcome to resign from the Champions League…. Well said Gaspode couldn't agree more these parasites are just ruining our game. cstand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Cloughie was always in the press on TV complaining about how football was run. Leicester Ram, Ramarena, AndyinLiverpool and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anon Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 I have never seen a group of people more pampered than modern elite footballers. It's honestly putting me off the sport. Dean Smith encouraging Billy Gilmore to play with a fever maybe isn't the best idea, but it's being treated like he almost killed him. It's absolutely pathetic. ziggyram59 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 1 hour ago, ziggyram59 said: I'm really sick of the likes of Thomas Tuchel(Chelsea), Jurgen Klopp(Liverpool), and Pep Guardiola whining about how they don't have enough players, not enough subs, they should have had a penalty, play far to many games over a certain period at Christmas, Tuchel is the worst without a doubt. One thing about Cloughie you would never hear him moan about these matters. They all have something in common, they are winners and all chasing the same prize. Understandable they want their best players fit and available for games, sure they have large squads of young players, but you don't have room to lose many games at the top. Being overly competitive doesn't bother me, In fact I have some sympathy with Klopp who's getting blasted for his views. If we was in Liverpool's position we would be supportive of what he's saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, sage said: Cloughie was always in the press on TV complaining about how football was run. Yes he might have been but he never whinged about Derby or Forest were cheated out of a game etc like today's lot. Clough had a lot of respect for ref's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Anon said: I have never seen a group of people more pampered than modern elite footballers. It's honestly putting me off the sport. Dean Smith encouraging Billy Gilmore to play with a fever maybe isn't the best idea, but it's being treated like he almost killed him. It's absolutely pathetic. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 7 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said: Yes he might have been but he never whinged about Derby or Forest were cheated out of a game etc like today's lot. Clough had a lot of respect for ref's. not in domestic football... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioactiveWaste Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 The thing to remember is, they're fighting for their own selfish interest. That's just how it is. However, don't ever confuse that with them arguing for what's right or best for the sport. The argument that "best for the top clubs = best for the sport" is self evidently bull poop EtoileSportiveDeDerby and ziggyram59 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mucker1884 Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 2 hours ago, ziggyram59 said: I'm really sick of the likes of Thomas Tuchel(Chelsea), Jurgen Klopp(Liverpool), and Pep Guardiola whining about how they don't have enough players, not enough subs, they should have had a penalty, play far to many games over a certain period at Christmas, Tuchel is the worst without a doubt. One thing about Cloughie you would never hear him moan about these matters. Man City. You are welcome. ?? rynny, Highgate, DarkFruitsRam7 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramism Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Maybe do away with the champions league and europa league go back to European cup and UEFA cup plus cup winners cup winners of uefa and cup winners gain entry to European cup. Only league winners enter European cup others play uefa cup all straight knock out. Players then play fewer games and everyone will want to win the FA cup again. Football was sooo much better back in the day RadioactiveWaste and ziggyram59 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyinLiverpool Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 55 minutes ago, ziggyram59 said: Yes he might have been but he never whinged about Derby or Forest were cheated out of a game etc like today's lot. Clough had a lot of respect for ref's. See his reaction to the Juventus game I know nothing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, super58 said: Maybe do away with the champions league and europa league go back to European cup and UEFA cup plus cup winners cup winners of uefa and cup winners gain entry to European cup. Only league winners enter European cup others play uefa cup all straight knock out. Players then play fewer games and everyone will want to win the FA cup again. Football was sooo much better back in the day Wouldn't that be fantastic to see. We can only dream. Sky and Premier League created a monster in 1992 and it will only get far worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gee SCREAMER !! Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just now, ziggyram59 said: Wouldn't that be fantastic to see. We can only dream. Sky and Premier League created a monster in 1992 and it will only get far worse. Catch 22 for them . Want the salaries but not the fixtures. These top end players and managers want 100k a week in wages. The only way to get that is more games . Play less games but get 50 % less pay. They won't be so tired then I imagine . ziggyram59 and Dean (hick) Saunders 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggyram59 Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share Posted December 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, AndyinLiverpool said: See his reaction to the Juventus game I think Shankly/Paisley would of complained after you know you have been cheated out out of result. Remember Shankly doing that in the 60's when they lost a European Cup Tie to a Italian team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram-Alf Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Just wait untill FIFA agree to Arsene Wengers plans for the World Cup every 2 years, I believe players Unions are already kissed off with this idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 Brendan Rodgers moaning about the fixture congestion. Does he count as foreign? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSD Posted December 30, 2021 Share Posted December 30, 2021 We want to play in all the competitions and win trophies.... No wait too many fixtures, we can't cope.... Duck off the lot of them. Massive budgets, massive squads. Chelsea had "terrible" COVID issues yet Lukaku was happily warming up the bench. Get a grip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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